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jamesg46
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:08 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 8:04 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:16 pm
SNP pushing for 2nd independence referendum and their team playing to a half empty stadium. Boy, do i hate nationalism and its hypocrisy!
I'm lost here, I'm not sure how anything is related, first of all I can work out that you're on about the Rugby not Football, but the rest of it needs explaining to me?
Half empty stadium vs San Marino.
And yet SNP pushing for 2nd referendum off the back of a 50-50 opinion poll.
Doesn't that clearly show the majority don't give a stuff about Scotland. Can't even fill a stadium on a rainy Sunday night.
Och Aye, I'm sooooo Scottish.
Nationalism is like religion. Its bollocks!!
Maybe they were all in Japan 😂 I wasn't aware Scotland were playing San Marino, so much for the United Kingdom. Maybe, religion is like water & nationalism is like juice (either way, bollox is correct) certainly makes for a tasty conversation, the subject deserves it's own thread... if only people could get past 1 comment without being aggressive/passionate.
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think there’s some value in the Faroe Islands v Malta goals market, both teams don’t know how to defend, personally I’ve backed 3-3, there’s been a couple of 3-2’s either way in this game & they haven’t played each other that many times..
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Kafkaesque
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Korattt wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:43 pm
think there’s some value in the Faroe Islands v Malta goals market, both teams don’t know how to defend, personally I’ve backed 3-3, there’s been a couple of 3-2’s either way in this game & they haven’t played each other that many times..
Please take this as much as constructive critism as possible, given that the match had already started when I saw the post.

There's a number of things, I would have considered a long way before a couple of 3-2's from 6 and 19 years ago.

On the footballing side of things:

Yes, they're not great at defending. But both are not exactly in the habit of shipping big numbers against, when facing national teams from the lower part of spectre. The vast majority of their sample size for goals against is versus attackers considerably above the standard here. On that same note, just as they're not great defensively, they're not that spectacular on the ball either. Someone's gonna have to create and someone else stick it in the back of the net for all those goals.

On the mental side of things:

No matter what the national pride is like in Malta, I think it's fair to assume that for most of these guys, it matters, just as much as putting on the national team shirt, to have a chance of playing against Ronaldo, Mbappe and the like, plus to have the shot at a scout spotting you. They're not so much in it to have Jan Arne Halvfarson, who by day (or night) earns a living as bouncer at the local bar, chop you down kneehigh as you're springing free. There's no scouts here either, I'd say.

Unless the Malta FA springs for some expensive travel, then Malta to Faroe Islands isn't exactly an easy travel day. And when you arrive, you've gone from 20 something celcius to single digits. Then to the stadium, which is an open one on a windy rock of an island, with a plastic pitch no less. I'd say most of the Malta players are going through the motions with the bare minimum to keep their spot in the team and getting out of that place sharpish, rather than looking to play an open match chasing goal after goal.
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Teams of equal ability tend to cancel each other out. Good and bad.
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For anyone reading through this thread in future the result was
Faroe Islands 1-0 Malta a 79th minute goal, Shots on target: 3-2, Corners 3-1
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Kafkaesque
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Did anyone spot this one?

https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/outrage ... mf40puk6b9

I can't seem to find any info on whether it was known beforehand? Must have been a wicked market!
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Kafkaesque
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On the subject of wicked markets.....somebody's having a bad at the office/in goal
Antalyaspor.PNG
Five shots in the first half and five goals for the away team, with them having six goals in seven matches this season prior. Plus a sending off for the home team. Stranger things and all that, but does look weird. 0-6 is it's approaching added time.
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Kai
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Heard about the Veracruz match, it was on top of Reddit and probably still is but haven't seen it yet.

Full video here for those interested : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WYR4SxU1lo
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Euler
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Missed that, thanks for posting. Caught something on twitter, didn't check.
greenmark
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Betfair are suspending even if they think there is a threat of a goal.
Watching Man U v Liverpool, suspension as Man U approach LFC goal area.
Why are they narrowing the area that people can trade?
Surely on the exchange its Joe Bloggs v Joe Bloggs. Betfair lose nothing to let it run, with the current inplay delays?
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:57 pm
Betfair are suspending even if they think there is a threat of a goal.
Watching Man U v Liverpool, suspension as Man U approach LFC goal area.
Why are they narrowing the area that people can trade?
Surely on the exchange its Joe Bloggs v Joe Bloggs. Betfair lose nothing to let it run, with the current inplay delays?
Not trading this game, I've too much attachment to it :)
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Got even more now!! :x

If they manage to get a win here they equal MC longest winning streak record!
greenmark
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Beginning to get a bit paranoid about VAR. The Spurs goal allowed yesterday was reported as stonewall handball. Yet a LFC player was clearely fouled in the run up to a goal. We seem to have ended up with just as much debate but its decided by someone in a VAR studio.
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Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:30 pm
Beginning to get a bit paranoid about VAR. The Spurs goal allowed yesterday was reported as stonewall handball. Yet a LFC player was clearely fouled in the run up to a goal. We seem to have ended up with just as much debate but its decided by someone in a VAR studio.
The Premier League implementation of VAR is seriously crap. It completeley ruined the Wolves v Saints game and several games earlier this season. in principle I am pro-VAR as it is intended to stop clear and obvious errors but the implementation has merely introduced minor technicalities for goals being ruled out like Cutrone's shoelaces being deemed offside minutes after the goal celebration and when players were already back in their own half lined up for the kick off. In the game against Leicester we had a goal chalked off because the ball brushed against Dendonker's upper arm near his shoulder in a corner melee. It is completely ruining the joy of the game. As far as I am concerned if they cant make a decision within 20 or 30 seconds via TV replays from every angle then it is not a clear and obvious error.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:30 pm
Beginning to get a bit paranoid about VAR. The Spurs goal allowed yesterday was reported as stonewall handball. Yet a LFC player was clearely fouled in the run up to a goal. We seem to have ended up with just as much debate but its decided by someone in a VAR studio.
I get the feeling, your allegiance is getting the better of you again. Do I need to post pics of Mane angleshooting again ;)

Gun to my head, was it a foul on Origi before United's goal, yes or no. Yeah probably. Clearly though, not a chance. Same for the Alli handball, gun to head, probably yeah. Stonewall, not a chance. Which makes both correct calls, if we're to follow the clear and obvious guideline.

Rather the issue for me is this. They're taking too long with these decisions. The Origi foul being the perfect example. If the VAR ref cannot spot instantly during play, or at most one quick replay, that something clear and obvious has been missed, then it by definition isn't. All this slowing it down and zooming in, they can feck right off with.

The illussion that VAR was or is going to eradicate unfair decisions and end controversy still persists. It was never going to be the case. So they should feeding it, by continuing to make what is still judgement calls on review.
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