Monitoring over / under 2.5 to blace a bet

[JustLukeYou]

"Hijacked" what are you 12? From this thread I have signed up to BetAngel and started using Rules, just need to get the rule to work and I will have a Stop Loss protection in place. Little point doing any trading until then.

That's great, it feels like only yesterday when you said that Bet Angel software was as useless as this forum.

Slightly offtopic but can you please send me a private message with your Youtube channel or your 70k views video? I promise not to share it with Derek or poke any fun at it

Kai, no. I am not sending you a link to my YouTube account. Just be an adult, leave other people alone and do your own thing.

This is typical response from you and Derek, you can tell me how to set up a Stop Loss rule in seconds but because you would rather stalk me on a forum you post childish posts asking to see something which is completely irrelevant.

[Kai]

Just be an adult, leave other people alone and do your own thing.

This is typical response from you and Derek, you can tell me how to set up a Stop Loss rule in seconds but because you would rather stalk me on a forum you post childish posts asking to see something which is completely irrelevant.

You say that but if we leave you alone then nobody else would reply to your questions and threads anymore. You make it sound like we're cyberbullies or something

How else are we supposed to reply Luke? We tried being serious with you for a few hundred posts, that didn't work. Maybe childish responses is exactly what you should be getting if you keep asking childish questions and acting like a brat? That's the only thing that makes sense. Everyone including Peter told you what you were doing wrong so not sure why you're surprised at the responses you're getting.

The only surprising thing here is that you haven't been banned yet.

[Derek27]

...you can tell me how to set up a Stop Loss rule in seconds but because you would rather stalk me on a forum you post childish posts asking to see something which is completely irrelevant.

Ever heard the saying, give a man a fish and it will feed him for a day, teach him to fish and it will feed him for life?

You want to be spoon-fed because you're too lazy to look at the guide (you've got the energy to pack 50 boxes in one night!) and you think we're being childish!

People would be far more willing to help you if you made an effort, and was a bit more polite. I'd suggest, as Shaun said, take some time off to study the guide slowly and carefully. Things people tell you are quickly forgotten but things you figure out yourself from experimenting stick with you.

[spock]

Should we be ecourageing under age gambling?

[greenmark]

I hope bri1980 got their answer.
Regarding Luke I would suggest he should restate his question.
As I understand it he wants to place a back bet on over/under markets and then have guardian place a lay bet when he's lost 20% of his stake.
Will he have only one back in each market?
Could he not adopt an apparently common staking approach ie same stake, every time and increase your stake as your bank increases? Then he can follow Dallas's advice early on in this thread. Close trade with greening based on profit/loss.

[ShaunWhite]

Problem solving is ESSENTIAL to trading, but Luke doesn't like solving problems. Until he changes that he's wasting his time. Being spoon-fed answers won't make him into a trader because he'll miss out on learning problem solving skills.

Him ignoring Psycoff's offer to answer his questions was a new low in his already dismal attitude. Peter spoke to him, Psycoff spoke to him, he rejected both. And he still thinks he can be better than 95% of other new traders who take the time to engage, study and talk sensibly? .... Forget it. Can you imagine any other new trader declining advice from two giants of the game??? Quite extraordinary, most would kill for an opportunity like that.

[spock]

I agree Shaun, maybe the unsolvable problem is himself!

[JustLukeYou]

I hope bri1980 got their answer.
Regarding Luke I would suggest he should restate his question.
As I understand it he wants to place a back bet on over/under markets and then have guardian place a lay bet when he's lost 20% of his stake.
Will he have only one back in each market?
Could he not adopt an apparently common staking approach ie same stake, every time and increase your stake as your bank increases? Then he can follow Dallas's advice early on in this thread. Close trade with greening based on profit/loss.

Hi,

With a big thank you to Dallas I did make some good progress yesterday. I used his template to create a Rule but I have set it up incorrectly. Let's say I back Under 2.5 Goals. The Rule applies a maximum 20% Loss to Under 2.5 Goals and puts the profit onto Over 2.5 goals. But I want it to apply the maximum 20% loss to Over 2.5 Goals. I can't see what I need to do to change it so it works correctly. But it is bloody frustrating when I get childish replies from people asking to see my YouTube account. Maybe someone wants get and down and dirty to sound of my voice instead of focusing on football trading.

[Euler]

Problem solving is ESSENTIAL to trading, but Luke doesn't like solving problems. Until he changes that he's wasting his time. Being spoon-fed answers won't make him into a trader because he'll miss out on learning problem solving skills.

Him ignoring Psycoff's offer to answer his questions was a new low in his already dismal attitude. Peter spoke to him, Psycoff spoke to him, he rejected both. And he still thinks he can be better than 95% of other new traders who take the time to engage, study and talk sensibly? .... Forget it. Can you imagine any other new trader declining advice from two giants of the game??? Quite extraordinary, most would kill for an opportunity like that.

It's actually an interesting insight into how people think, rationalise and react to criticism.

After many years I've come to realise that you can tell people what they want to hear and they will love you, despite the fact it's wrong. Or you can tell people the truth and they don't like you, because it's not what they want to hear. Just look at politics!

I've worked hard to understand why, in trading, people make bad decisions and how to get them to unwind those processes. But at its core, it needs the recipient to really 'believe' to throw away prejudices and embrace what you are saying. Some people just never seem to be able to do that. It needs a fundamental shift in their thinking to be able to make that leap.

I had to go through it, so I know it can be done. I just can't figure out how you help people do it. Maybe you can't?

[JustLukeYou]

Problem solving is ESSENTIAL to trading, but Luke doesn't like solving problems. Until he changes that he's wasting his time. Being spoon-fed answers won't make him into a trader because he'll miss out on learning problem solving skills.

Him ignoring Psycoff's offer to answer his questions was a new low in his already dismal attitude. Peter spoke to him, Psycoff spoke to him, he rejected both. And he still thinks he can be better than 95% of other new traders who take the time to engage, study and talk sensibly? .... Forget it. Can you imagine any other new trader declining advice from two giants of the game??? Quite extraordinary, most would kill for an opportunity like that.

It's actually an interesting insight into how people think, rationalise and react to criticism.

After many years I've come to realise that you can tell people what they want to hear and they will love you, despite the fact it's wrong. Or you can tell people the truth and they don't like you, because it's not what they want to hear. Just look at politics!

I've worked hard to understand why, in trading, people make bad decisions and how to get them to unwind those processes. But at its core, it needs the recipient to really 'believe' to throw away prejudices and embrace what you are saying. Some people just never seem to be able to do that. It needs a fundamental shift in their thinking to be able to make that leap.

I had to go through it, so I know it can be done. I just can't figure out how you help people do it. Maybe you can't?

Hi Euler,

How do I set up a Stop Loss so that if my stake goes below 80% it trades out automatically please?

[JustLukeYou]

Problem solving is ESSENTIAL to trading, but Luke doesn't like solving problems. Until he changes that he's wasting his time. Being spoon-fed answers won't make him into a trader because he'll miss out on learning problem solving skills.

Him ignoring Psycoff's offer to answer his questions was a new low in his already dismal attitude. Peter spoke to him, Psycoff spoke to him, he rejected both. And he still thinks he can be better than 95% of other new traders who take the time to engage, study and talk sensibly? .... Forget it. Can you imagine any other new trader declining advice from two giants of the game??? Quite extraordinary, most would kill for an opportunity like that.

ShaunWhite, what do you mean by "Him ignoring Psycoff's offer to answer his questions was a new low in his already dismal attitude."

[greenmark]

I hope bri1980 got their answer.
Regarding Luke I would suggest he should restate his question.
As I understand it he wants to place a back bet on over/under markets and then have guardian place a lay bet when he's lost 20% of his stake.
Will he have only one back in each market?
Could he not adopt an apparently common staking approach ie same stake, every time and increase your stake as your bank increases? Then he can follow Dallas's advice early on in this thread. Close trade with greening based on profit/loss.

Hi,

With a big thank you to Dallas I did make some good progress yesterday. I used his template to create a Rule but I have set it up incorrectly. Let's say I back Under 2.5 Goals. The Rule applies a maximum 20% Loss to Under 2.5 Goals and puts the profit onto Over 2.5 goals. But I want it to apply the maximum 20% loss to Over 2.5 Goals. I can't see what I need to do to change it so it works correctly. But it is bloody frustrating when I get childish replies from people asking to see my YouTube account. Maybe someone wants get and down and dirty to sound of my voice instead of focusing on football trading.

It can't be done without using stored value for Matched Bet price.

[JustLukeYou]

I hope bri1980 got their answer.
Regarding Luke I would suggest he should restate his question.
As I understand it he wants to place a back bet on over/under markets and then have guardian place a lay bet when he's lost 20% of his stake.
Will he have only one back in each market?
Could he not adopt an apparently common staking approach ie same stake, every time and increase your stake as your bank increases? Then he can follow Dallas's advice early on in this thread. Close trade with greening based on profit/loss.

Hi,

With a big thank you to Dallas I did make some good progress yesterday. I used his template to create a Rule but I have set it up incorrectly. Let's say I back Under 2.5 Goals. The Rule applies a maximum 20% Loss to Under 2.5 Goals and puts the profit onto Over 2.5 goals. But I want it to apply the maximum 20% loss to Over 2.5 Goals. I can't see what I need to do to change it so it works correctly. But it is bloody frustrating when I get childish replies from people asking to see my YouTube account. Maybe someone wants get and down and dirty to sound of my voice instead of focusing on football trading.

It can't be done without using stored value for Matched Bet price.

So if I trade 2 football matches, one for £10 and one for £20 it can't calculate the 20% reduction in those stakes?

[greenmark]

Hi,

With a big thank you to Dallas I did make some good progress yesterday. I used his template to create a Rule but I have set it up incorrectly. Let's say I back Under 2.5 Goals. The Rule applies a maximum 20% Loss to Under 2.5 Goals and puts the profit onto Over 2.5 goals. But I want it to apply the maximum 20% loss to Over 2.5 Goals. I can't see what I need to do to change it so it works correctly. But it is bloody frustrating when I get childish replies from people asking to see my YouTube account. Maybe someone wants get and down and dirty to sound of my voice instead of focusing on football trading.

It can't be done without using stored value for Matched Bet price.

So if I trade 2 football matches, one for £10 and one for £20 it can't calculate the 20% reduction in those stakes?

No it can't without using stored values. Betangel's Close trade with greening only operates on discreet values of profit/loss (not % of stake).
But it seems to me you could use Stored values (Matched bet price) to achieve that.
Betangel gurus may disagree.

[JustLukeYou]

It can't be done without using stored value for Matched Bet price.

So if I trade 2 football matches, one for £10 and one for £20 it can't calculate the 20% reduction in those stakes?

You didn't mention linking different markets until now?
Please define your question accurately. That would help a lot.

Let's say there are two football matches tonight.

I want to back 1 game to have Under 5.5 goals at £10 and the other game to have Under 5.5 Goals at £20. Completely independent matches.

Let's say for example the £10 stake finishes 0-0 then I make a profit. But if the £20 stake is 4-0 at half time and my stake is value at £16 then my stake is automatically cashed out so I can't lose anymore than £4 or 20%.