Monitoring over / under 2.5 to blace a bet

[ShaunWhite]

I'll try to find time to answer properly when I'm back to work on Monday. In the mean time look at the "Green all selections" rule type and the conditions you want it to fire on. Forum search will give you 100s of useful threads about greening (which is what you're doing when you stop a loss). You shouldn't have too many unanswered questions after reading that lot.

[ShaunWhite]

Luke everything you need is in here. Just modify it for whatever you want to do. Ignore the fact it says racing all markets work the same way.

You could add a rule with a profit condition to stop you out at whatever -£X.XX loss you want
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488

You could also arm it at 30 or 60 secs into the race (or whatever time you want) so it will only trigger if its more than 30secs into a race and your loss is more than whatever you set.

Or you could use something like this which will eliminate being stopped by a short term price spike
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=11954

[JustLukeYou]

Luke everything you need is in here. Just modify it for whatever you want to do. Ignore the fact it says racing all markets work the same way.

You could add a rule with a profit condition to stop you out at whatever -£X.XX loss you want
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488

You could also arm it at 30 or 60 secs into the race (or whatever time you want) so it will only trigger if its more than 30secs into a race and your loss is more than whatever you set.

Or you could use something like this which will eliminate being stopped by a short term price spike
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=11954

Thank you, I have gone through this but it looks like I am stuck on the Parameters, But I don't know what I require. I think it is "Weight of Money" but when I search the Manual it doesn't explain what Weight of Money is so I am just guessing. When I search "Stop Loss" it shows how to create a manual Stop Loss. Can someone at BetAngel add a Stop Loss field for percentages and then a "Repeat" button. Let's say for example Liverpool are playing Chelsea and you want to quickly back both Under 2.5 and Under 3.5 goals but you don't want to lose 20% of your stake you just enter 20 and select Repeat. I know around 5 people who might be interested in football trading but I wouldn't recommend BetAngel but they would just laugh at me if I told them they have to read a manual to use software based on gambling.


The only reference to Parameters I can find is this: "The stake size as with all other aspects of this file can also be edited very easily by clicking on "Edit Rules File" then click on the "General, Parameters & Conditions" tab and change to whatever you require."

https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/wei ... 3D&mw=MzIw#

[Kai]

I know around 5 people who might be interested in football trading but I wouldn't recommend BetAngel but they would just laugh at me if I told them they have to read a manual to use software based on gambling.

One Luke is just about enough for this forum, I don't think it could handle 5 more of you

So to sum it all up, you've had a brilliant idea of trying out Bet Angel to avoid getting banned from the forum. And now you're promising to recommend the software to 5 of your mates but only IF everyone here sets it all up for you (and your imaginary mates) so that you don't have to learn how to use the software yourself.

And the only reason why you're entertaining the idea of automating your stoploss is to avoid learning how to properly manage your back bet yourself in the first place, you genuinely thought that simply installing trading software would make everything much easier.

[JTEDL]

WOM isn't much use on under/overs markets, looks like it's been mentioned already but you need the 'green all profit' condition. If a £2 stake then set it for less than -40p for a 20% stop loss, BUT you may be traded out for a greater amount depending on when goals are scored or if a couple of goals in quick succession.

[greenmark]

WOM isn't much use on under/overs markets, looks like it's been mentioned already but you need the 'green all profit' condition. If a £2 stake then set it for less than -40p for a 20% stop loss, BUT you may be traded out for a greater amount depending on when goals are scored or if a couple of goals in quick succession.

He did say he's using variable stakes, so he can't use the profit value condition unless he changes the rule every time he uses a different stake.

I was wondering whether he could use Close Trade on selection with Stored Value condition based on guardian nominated selection lay price > matched bet back price mutiplied by 125%.

Wouldn't that stop him out when he's making a loss of £2 with a £10 back stake or £4 wih ma £20 back stake.

He does seem to want software to be intuitive.
BetAngel is really flexible takes thought and practice to get your head round it.

[Jukebox]

I know around 5 people who might be interested in football trading but I wouldn't recommend BetAngel but they would just laugh at me if I told them they have to read a manual to use software based on gambling.

Would they instead expect that the Ministry of Magic would just wave their wands and endow them with mastery of the software the instant its downloaded?

BA have provided
a detailed manual
Many example step by step videos covering countess examples of how it might be used for a particular strategy
A forum - which you've made ample use of and had countless questions answered - some in lengthy detail and some even opened the manual for you at the relevant page.
You can even book yourself into one of their training courses.

Learning does require some effort - even at Hogwarts.

[JTEDL]

WOM isn't much use on under/overs markets, looks like it's been mentioned already but you need the 'green all profit' condition. If a £2 stake then set it for less than -40p for a 20% stop loss, BUT you may be traded out for a greater amount depending on when goals are scored or if a couple of goals in quick succession.

He did say he's using variable stakes, so he can't use the profit value condition unless he changes the rule every time he uses a different stake.

or could just make a separate file for each stake he wants to use

[greenmark]

WOM isn't much use on under/overs markets, looks like it's been mentioned already but you need the 'green all profit' condition. If a £2 stake then set it for less than -40p for a 20% stop loss, BUT you may be traded out for a greater amount depending on when goals are scored or if a couple of goals in quick succession.

He did say he's using variable stakes, so he can't use the profit value condition unless he changes the rule every time he uses a different stake.

or could just make a separate file for each stake he wants to use

Fair point.

Hope he's doing this in practice mode until he gets it right!!

[JTEDL]

That might be the next question - how do you use practice mode?

[Derek27]

Luke everything you need is in here. Just modify it for whatever you want to do. Ignore the fact it says racing all markets work the same way.

You could add a rule with a profit condition to stop you out at whatever -£X.XX loss you want
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488

You could also arm it at 30 or 60 secs into the race (or whatever time you want) so it will only trigger if its more than 30secs into a race and your loss is more than whatever you set.

Or you could use something like this which will eliminate being stopped by a short term price spike
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=11954

Thank you, I have gone through this but it looks like I am stuck on the Parameters, But I don't know what I require. I think it is "Weight of Money" but when I search the Manual it doesn't explain what Weight of Money is so I am just guessing. When I search "Stop Loss" it shows how to create a manual Stop Loss. Can someone at BetAngel add a Stop Loss field for percentages and then a "Repeat" button. Let's say for example Liverpool are playing Chelsea and you want to quickly back both Under 2.5 and Under 3.5 goals but you don't want to lose 20% of your stake you just enter 20 and select Repeat. I know around 5 people who might be interested in football trading but I wouldn't recommend BetAngel but they would just laugh at me if I told them they have to read a manual to use software based on gambling.


The only reference to Parameters I can find is this: "The stake size as with all other aspects of this file can also be edited very easily by clicking on "Edit Rules File" then click on the "General, Parameters & Conditions" tab and change to whatever you require."

https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/wei ... 3D&mw=MzIw#

If you ask Bet Angel for support on how to use it, you'll probably be advised, as most forums do, to post your question to the forum where any advice will (normally) benefit others. Any forum is the best place to get information for an associated product.

Are you're five friends still wearing nappies or do they wipe their own bums? If they do they'd probably laugh at you for thinking you can set up automation without even reading the manual or having any understanding of automation.

Although I'm not currently using BA I have tried almost every trading software on the market at some point and BA is by far, in my opinion, the most advanced, fully-featured and customizable, and considering its complexity easy to use.

If you disagree, just download another package, don't read the manual, set up your automation and come back to this thread (or start a thread of your own) to tell us how easy it was.

[Euler]

The saga continues. I'm an impassive observer now, but even that is getting tiring. I'll take your collective call on how long you wish to persist.

[JustLukeYou]

Hi,

The customer support has replied so I am sure I can get this sorted. Thank you for everyone's help who has had a positive input into this. But I am puzzled and confused as this must be a very popular Rule that people want to use. For example, someone places a £100 stake of England to beat South Africa but they don't want to lose more than £50. Let's say the odds are 1.7 they have the potential to make £70 profit or lose no more than £50.

It is stuck in my head that is a very popular rule or automated process that people are looking for. Is that the case?

Once I get it sorted I shall post a screenshot or add the file to the directory.

[Derek27]

It is stuck in my head that is a very popular rule or automated process that people are looking for.

That's the problem. Once something's stuck in your head it's hard to dislodge it. Most people are content with a stop-loss in ticks so don't require what you're after. Others will position their stop-loss according to market conditions and not simply a percentage of their stake. If everybody in the world thought like you the world would be a very different place!

[JustLukeYou]

I see where I am going wrong. What I am looking for is the Back odds to move adversely by 20%. Let's say I back Under 5.5 goals in Everton v Tottenham at 1.1 and the odds move to 1.12 how to I get it trade out at that point?

Currently the lay odds are 1.17 so I as soon as I place the Rule it trades out for a Loss regardless of whether there are no goals or 8 goals. So it appears that the Stop Loss rule only works on the occasion when the Back and Lay odds are very close. Currently I back over 5.5 goals for 6.8 and the Lay odds are only 6.9. So I want to back Over 5.5 goals the Rule wouldn't trigger unless the Lay odds moved out. IE it 3-1 at half time.