Monitoring over / under 2.5 to blace a bet
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Thank you once again Greenmark and Dabbla, it is currently 05:57 but I will hopefully setting up Dabbla baf file tonight. I have thought of a simple way to test the file and the changes I make, I can just back both teams in a match to win. Regardless of what happens in the match one or both of the trades should trade out once the stake is down by 20%. I'll see how that goes, hopefully I will have breakfast by then.
I've been following the threads daily as well. It has become like a soap operaDerek27 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:24 pmI'm pretty sure I've read all 452 posts to date. Never before understood why people find garbage soap operas like Eastenders unmissable and have to catch up, but I'm beginning to understand now.Kai wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:07 pmNot sure if Greenmark had the pleasure of reading through all of his threads like some of us, but people only started to poke fun at him after he took a massive dump on the entire forum + the software and I don't remember seeing any apologies either.
I've known Luke since he was about yay high and since his postcount was still in single digits and I have to say that he has not grown an inch since then, but at least now he's actively trying not to get banned![]()
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I have to say though that I'm so impressed by everyones patience and continual willingness to help. I would have given up a long time ago.
If it does demonstrate anything to anyone new to the forum or the software, it's that you can happily ask any question on here and not get shot down in flames or ridiculed (unless you completely take the piss)
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Hi Dabbla,
Big thanks for setting up the button file. I have set up the servant and am I testing it on two opposing trades for a match tonight. Is it possible to convert the Servant into an Automation Rule that I can use outside the ladder? With a servant I have to reassign the Servant to short cut key each time I want to use it on a different market. With an Automation Rule I can select it from a drop down menu in Guardian.
Big thanks for setting up the button file. I have set up the servant and am I testing it on two opposing trades for a match tonight. Is it possible to convert the Servant into an Automation Rule that I can use outside the ladder? With a servant I have to reassign the Servant to short cut key each time I want to use it on a different market. With an Automation Rule I can select it from a drop down menu in Guardian.
Set the servant up as one of these buttons .
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/sta ... 3D&mw=MzIw#
You want part 3 and the link to 'Custom Column Editor'
Make sure to save.
If your only placing a bet you can just use the one click screen and my button for now.
The green rule can be put in to guardian., create a new rule file and copy the green rule to that and delete it from the original Button rule file. You will then put the green rule in to guardian and bet from the one click screen.
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/sta ... 3D&mw=MzIw#
You want part 3 and the link to 'Custom Column Editor'
Make sure to save.
If your only placing a bet you can just use the one click screen and my button for now.
The green rule can be put in to guardian., create a new rule file and copy the green rule to that and delete it from the original Button rule file. You will then put the green rule in to guardian and bet from the one click screen.
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Backing both teams is a novel way to test a market level stop loss, some might say it's no different to laying the draw.JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:05 amI thought of a simple way to test the file and the changes I make, I can just back both teams in a match to win. Regardless of what happens in the match one or both of the trades should trade out once the stake is down by 20%.
I assume you've seen Rebelo's video called 'Panic'. Being a student of his I'm suprised you're continuing with a price driven stop, he clearly describes how his account is stuffed with money from people who think like that. You're playing straight into his hands and the hands of anyone who's trading by being good at reading the game. The man himself was even kind enough to warn you. How you plan to deal with refs decisions you expect to be overturned by VAR? You'll just be swept along by the panic.
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Hi,Dabbla wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:41 pmSet the servant up as one of these buttons .
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/sta ... 3D&mw=MzIw#
You want part 3 and the link to 'Custom Column Editor'
Make sure to save.
If your only placing a bet you can just use the one click screen and my button for now.
The green rule can be put in to guardian., create a new rule file and copy the green rule to that and delete it from the original Button rule file. You will then put the green rule in to guardian and bet from the one click screen.
I did try the Servant. I ran it on WBA to draw and WBA to win. WBA are currently drawing the Draw Back did not trade out. The Servant showed as Active. I traded out through BetFair on both stakes and the Activity tab shows no history. Does it take the total Back for example I was making a profit overall from the £2 I put on WBA to win. If that is the case I can back an outsider to win and it should lose to see if the Servant runs and trades out.
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Incidentally there's no evidence that an automated stop, 20% or otherwise will improve your returns. For every stop that fires there's others that go beyond - x% and then return to profitability. I also see no evidence that anyone trading football by discretion uses them. If you're automating the stop, why bother watching the game?
TBH I think we now have to adopt (as much as i detest it) an Agile approach. Luke doesn't actually know what he wants to do, he's hitting and overcoming hurdles (with help from peopel like dabbla). We just need to keep asking 'what are you trying to do?' and respond as best we can. Sadly, we're not being paid for each iteration, but we can all walk away at any time and leave him to it.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:50 pmBacking both teams is a novel way to test a market level stop loss, some might say it's no different to laying the draw.JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:05 amI thought of a simple way to test the file and the changes I make, I can just back both teams in a match to win. Regardless of what happens in the match one or both of the trades should trade out once the stake is down by 20%.
I assume you've seen Rebelo's video called 'Panic'. Being a student of his I'm suprised you're continuing with a price driven stop, he clearly describes how his account is stuffed with money from people who think like that. You're playing straight into his hands and the hands of anyone who's trading by being good at reading the game. The man himself was even kind enough to warn you. How you plan to deal with refs decisions you expect to be overturned by VAR? You'll just be swept along by the panic.
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Hi, this is what I am looking to achieve. I place a £2 Back on Barcelona v Slavia Prague to have Under 5.5 goals. If at half time it is 3-0 to Barcelona and I can trade out at below £1.60 (a 20% loss) this trade out is automatically carried out.greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:20 pmTBH I think we now have to adopt (as much as i detest it) an Agile approach. Luke doesn't actually know what he wants to do, he's hitting and overcoming hurdles (with help from peopel like dabbla). We just need to keep asking 'what are you trying to do?' and respond as best we can. Sadly, we're not being paid for each iteration, but we can all walk away at any time and leave him to it.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 8:50 pmBacking both teams is a novel way to test a market level stop loss, some might say it's no different to laying the draw.JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:05 amI thought of a simple way to test the file and the changes I make, I can just back both teams in a match to win. Regardless of what happens in the match one or both of the trades should trade out once the stake is down by 20%.
I assume you've seen Rebelo's video called 'Panic'. Being a student of his I'm suprised you're continuing with a price driven stop, he clearly describes how his account is stuffed with money from people who think like that. You're playing straight into his hands and the hands of anyone who's trading by being good at reading the game. The man himself was even kind enough to warn you. How you plan to deal with refs decisions you expect to be overturned by VAR? You'll just be swept along by the panic.
It will treat each selection separate, so your bets probably didn’t reach the trigger point.
If you switched matches on the one click screen that may have cancelled it .
Open up practice find any market, any sport that has big gaps, trigger the servant and keep placing lays you will see it trigger. It wont trigger if there is no lay price.
If you switched matches on the one click screen that may have cancelled it .
Open up practice find any market, any sport that has big gaps, trigger the servant and keep placing lays you will see it trigger. It wont trigger if there is no lay price.
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Okay thanks! So if I Lay Barcelona to win and they score it will place a back bet to stop a 20% loss on the Lay?Dabbla wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:27 pmIt will treat each selection separate, so your bets probably didn’t reach the trigger point.
If you switched matches on the one click screen that may have cancelled it .
Open up practice find any market, any sport that has big gaps, trigger the servant and keep placing lays you will see it trigger. It wont trigger if there is no lay price.
If you reverse the rule. You've been talking about back to lay until now.JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:30 pmOkay thanks! So if I Lay Barcelona to win and they score it will place a back bet to stop a 20% loss on the Lay?Dabbla wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:27 pmIt will treat each selection separate, so your bets probably didn’t reach the trigger point.
If you switched matches on the one click screen that may have cancelled it .
Open up practice find any market, any sport that has big gaps, trigger the servant and keep placing lays you will see it trigger. It wont trigger if there is no lay price.
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Okay, so I back Slavia Prague if the Lay odds are close and Barcelona score the Servant will trigger because it is almost certain my stake on S. Prague to win will fall below £1.60.greenmark wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:34 pmIf you reverse the rule. You've been talking about back to lay until now.JustLukeYou wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:30 pmOkay thanks! So if I Lay Barcelona to win and they score it will place a back bet to stop a 20% loss on the Lay?Dabbla wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:27 pmIt will treat each selection separate, so your bets probably didn’t reach the trigger point.
If you switched matches on the one click screen that may have cancelled it .
Open up practice find any market, any sport that has big gaps, trigger the servant and keep placing lays you will see it trigger. It wont trigger if there is no lay price.
I always remember the first time i ever decided to trade the under 2.5's years ago. I'd heard it was a good market to trade the time decay in the first 10 minutes. Very first game i picked, match was pretty much permanently suspended for the first 15 minutes as it went 2-2 in no time. Never tried it again!