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burntheory
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jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:58 pm
I think that is open to interpretation, i'm sure there are people who have systems built on predicting outcomes, and I mean the actual result of the event, on the flip side, my assumption of someone who trades order flow may have an idea of a likely outcome but is ultimately trading what they actually see, this isn't imo "predicting" it's actually happening.

I think I understand a little better now your original comment & i'm sorry if my reply seemed a little "shitty" it wasn't intended that way, I was genuinely trying to understand what you had said... maybe lack of sleep or IQ was my downfall.
No probs or offence taken :D

Maybe if I'd used the word anticipate in terms of trading market movements, it might have been more meaningful, at least in terms of setting up a trade.
Jukebox
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I'm totally confused by the statements and responses and will now only be able to understand with the use of a diagram and an anatomically correct doll.
burntheory
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Jukebox wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:49 pm
I'm totally confused by the statements and responses and will now only be able to understand with the use of a diagram and an anatomically correct doll.
In an earlier post Shaun talks about the market being a competition. On of the first rules of competition is confusing the opposition. One down, several tens of thousands to go...this time next year Jukebox, I'll be a millionaire :D !
Jukebox
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burntheory wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:24 am
Jukebox wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:49 pm
I'm totally confused by the statements and responses and will now only be able to understand with the use of a diagram and an anatomically correct doll.
In an earlier post Shaun talks about the market being a competition. On of the first rules of competition is confusing the opposition. One down, several tens of thousands to go...this time next year Jukebox, I'll be a millionaire :D !
Does that mean you worked out where the extra £5 came from that he also mentioned?
burntheory
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Jukebox wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:01 am
burntheory wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:24 am
Jukebox wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:49 pm
I'm totally confused by the statements and responses and will now only be able to understand with the use of a diagram and an anatomically correct doll.
In an earlier post Shaun talks about the market being a competition. On of the first rules of competition is confusing the opposition. One down, several tens of thousands to go...this time next year Jukebox, I'll be a millionaire :D !
Does that mean you worked out where the extra £5 came from that he also mentioned?
There is no extra £5 in Shaun's example. If A wins £10 then B has to lose £10. As I said previously, that's a given. But what happens over series of bets?

Here's what happened over the course of the 32,000 race sample. The average profit per market made by the backers was £135,538.79 and average loss was £117,878.73. So far so good for backers. The problem is they only managed to win 43% of the time. Result, a long term average loss per race of £8,900 during that 3.5 year period.
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