greenmark wrote: ↑Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:47 pm
Kafkaesque
"That Leicester goal standing is an absolute stain on the PL."
In what way a stain. This is the new paradigm. Teams have goals scrubbed off and allowed for reasons that leave ordinary supporters open-mouthed. We've exchanged one kind of subjectivity for another.
Okay, I'll admit the wording was a bit strong. I do though maintain that granting a goal after the flag has gone up is messing with the integrity of the game, which the FA/PL so often are keen to defend on other counts. Like I said, it is so engrained in players, that an offside flag stops play, and they've set themselves an impossible precedent now. Given their own VAR guidelines. No play involving a good scoring chance can now be stopped for offside (until the immidiate chance is gone), if the PL are to have any respect left.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/1297403
"Where there is a clear and obvious goalscoring opportunity and the assistant referee is not certain whether the attacker actively involved is in an offside position, the assistant should delay indicating the offence until the phase of play has concluded."
I don't have to love, or even like, this brave new football world of linemen thinking there's an offside and not raising the flag until the immidiate chance is gone, but so be it. The wheels does come off with the next bit.
"Where there is a clear and obvious goalscoring opportunity and the assistant referee is certain the attacker actively involved is in an offside position, then the assistant should indicate the offence immediately.
In both of these situations the referee should wait to blow the whistle until the immediate phase of play has ended."
I knew this was the wording, but honestly thought it was a better safe than sorry wording in case someone got a shot off before the ref had time to blow the whistle. Now someone's implemented it and pandora's box is open.
Every time someone is played through on goal, while being clearly offside with the flag going up, the ref will now need to let it play out - no matter how obvious the offside - and let defenders storm back, lunging at the ball and possibly ankles of the attacking players, we all want to see on the pitch instead of the treatment room.
In reality, I realise there's more gray, and less black and white to this. Thus, the reality is that the PL and their refs have a choice between sacrifycing more of the gameflow by keeping it as described in their guidelines and letting even more needless, should-have-been-blown-dead situations play out. Or adding yet more gray to the game by asking the ref to judge when the linesman - who is in a better position to judge and who should only flag when absolutely certain in the first place - is not right to be certain. Like I said, a stain, I maintain
Fans profiting off their own club's misfortunes and creating toxic narrative that the rest of their fanbase loves to eat up, they've helped push Wenger out and now Emery, multiplying the pressure on the club a hundredfold to sell clicks, selling a ton of their own merchandise etc. 
took me a while to figure what you were on about. I like Jonjo, frustratingly erratic though he is. I wonder how hard he works, but the natural talent is there.
