General Election 2019 (UK)
Got some matched yesterday around that price but hoping to of had more that's waiting further down to be taken so I'd be happy to see it shorten up further again
- wearthefoxhat
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So Conservatives need 326 seats+ minimum, otherwise it'll be another 3 years of Brexit/NoBrexit, probably another General Election as well...maybe a 2nd/3rd referendum....who said politics was boring...and MEP's galore....
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- ShaunWhite
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Interesting use of stats maths in The Telegraph.
"One in four votes - around 20 per cent - is likely to be cast by post at today's general election."
And they have the nerve to say manifesto pledges don't add up
"One in four votes - around 20 per cent - is likely to be cast by post at today's general election."
And they have the nerve to say manifesto pledges don't add up

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It's unfair and people moan about it but when we had a referendum on having a transferable alternative vote in 2011 only 42% could be bothered to vote and 68% of them wanted to stick with what we have.Aarondewit wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:23 amIt's always struck me as extraordinary how ridiculous and undemocratic the first-past-the-post voting system is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Un ... referendum
Same with Brexit, an electorate of over 45 million and 17 million is a majority. It's how we do things so you can't really grumble but all victories are a bit hollow.
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- superfrank
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from AEP in the Telegraph
One thing is certain as voting day finally arrives: Europe is rooting for Boris Johnson. The more seats, the better.
Nobody in high office will say it. A few Commission diehards might still hope to overturn Brexit - or still imagine that such a reconquest would be digestible - but the overwhelming view in the great capitals is that further years of British civil war and cross-Channel brinkmanship risk a strategic debacle.
They can only roll their eyes at the naïveté of Hugh Grant and the Beautiful People, as if tactical voting can surgically deliver the right hung Parliament: that is to say a revocation referendum, without that little extra problem of an anti-NATO Marxist, one who thinks that Mao’s Great Leap Forward was a success, finds no fault with Vladimir Putin, and excoriates Western self-defence.
Never forget that the EU has become - structurally and legally - a corporatist-capitalist alliance that forbids its members to pursue genuinely left-wing policies. Syriza learned this the hard way in Greece.
“If they wake up on Friday morning to a Corbyn government, the mood in Brussels will be close to panic,” said Andrew Duff, a veteran EU insider and president of the federalist Spinelli Group. “It would be a disaster. They don’t want a timebomb thrown into the European security system.”
“They are praying for a government with a big majority that can end this bloody nonsense, and that means Boris. They don’t have any respect for the Remainer coalition,” he said.
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You are right about how people see it but if Conservatives are not the brighter why do Labour bang on so much about private schools and having an unfair advantage? If they do get an 'advantage' by going to a private school then the mean education level of Conservatives must be higher. And if your stats are correct then those that go to private school are more likely to be less right wing!ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:54 pmThe popular illusion is that bright people are Tory and those less fortunate are Labour but the stats show that the higher the level of education, the less right wing people are.
Anyway as always in life it's not a matter of what is and what isn't, it's all about what is perceived to be and perceived not to be. 'Illusions' are of greater importance than fact!
