Is race riding a 'sport' in horse racing?

[Derek27]

There are women body builders, wrestlers, boxers

THERE ARE MALE AND FEMALE HORSES

Work it out

Work what out? The question is about what sports women can compete with men, not merely the existence of women in that sport.

[StellaBot]

THE CLUE IS
FEMALE HORSES RUN AGAINST MALE HORSES

EDIT

ALL SPORTS AND FEMALE
I WOULDNT KNOW

But there was a woman once ran in front of horses
Didnt time her
But it was at Tattenham Corner

[stueytrader]

There is the sex-difference, but there's also the ability-difference question that gets me.

Seen Richard Johnson get completely outridden sometimes by much lower ranked jockeys. Just seems too random a sport in terms of ability to me. Far less consistency in ability shown by jockeys (IMHO). Is like Djokovic losing to an 18 year old qualifier. Yes, it can happen in other sports, but far less so.

[StellaBot]

Brexit is easier for some people

Dont complicate them

[StellaBot]

There are more important things going on
If you think otherwise

PHONE 111

[stueytrader]

Stella's been on the Stella....

[StellaBot]

THAT AND OVER 2.5
NOT % DRINK

[ANGELS15]

An implicit question, is what % difference (estimate of course) would a jockey make to selection....

Tony McCoy when he was riding. If he coudln't win on your horse then it wasn't meant to win or had 'no f.....g chance'.

A good jockey can impart confidence to a horse. A prime example is Aiden Coleman who somehow usually gets horses to settle very well and conserve energy for the finish.

An inexperienced amatuer on a horse can be like a sack of potatoes in the saddle. Jockeyship is even more vital in amateur races.

[Derek27]

THE CLUE IS
FEMALE HORSES RUN AGAINST MALE HORSES

EDIT

ALL SPORTS AND FEMALE
I WOULDNT KNOW

But there was a woman once ran in front of horses
Didnt time her
But it was at Tattenham Corner

The clue to what?? Sorry, still haven't a clue what you're getting at.

[Derek27]

There is the sex-difference, but there's also the ability-difference question that gets me.

Seen Richard Johnson get completely outridden sometimes by much lower ranked jockeys. Just seems too random a sport in terms of ability to me. Far less consistency in ability shown by jockeys (IMHO). Is like Djokovic losing to an 18 year old qualifier. Yes, it can happen in other sports, but far less so.

When you're comparing jockeys you have to make a comparison between what they've done with what they're riding. Djokovic doesn't have an animal on court to assist him so the comparison doesn't apply. Richard Johnson getting well beaten by an inexperienced jockey doesn't reflect on his skill and ability unless you think he gave his mount a bum ride.

[StellaBot]

Ask Hayley Turner

Higher % against well known males

Fink about it

[Derek27]

Ask Hayley Turner

Higher % against well known males

Fink about it

Ask Hayley Turner what??? Fink about what??? If you don't know what you're talking about Hayley Turner isn't likely to either.

It would probably be difficult enough understanding what you're thinking even if you comprehensively explained it. Throwing cryptic clues around as to what you're thinking isn't even worth trying to comprehend!

[Derek27]

An implicit question, is what % difference (estimate of course) would a jockey make to selection....

Impossible to quantify as a percentage. In a race with horses of varying abilities like a maiden or even a group one with a horse like Frankel in it, it's all down to the horse and a jockey could just have a steering job. In a more competitive handicap, or a race run at a false or extremely fast pace, a jockey's tactics, positioning and timing can be crucial, and result in an inferior horse winning because it was given a better ride.

Judging the pace, especially on a front runner is one of the most difficult tasks a jockey has. If 60 seconds is a fast time over five furlongs, 62 is pretty slow. Visually you'd struggle to tell the difference but jockeys have to be finely tuned into the pace and how comfortable their mount is.

[greenmark]

Formula race driving is a good comparison yes - interestingly, there don't seem to be female drivers there though (?)

Men consistently outperform women on spatial skills in general, there's some decent science behind it on how the brain is wired slightly differently between the 2 genders, which over time probably contributed to the popular stigma that women are bad drivers.

I'm sure I remember a Horizon program or similar, saying categorically that the the RAF had discovered that women made the best fighter pilots except for the physical demands (G-forces for example). Their ability to multitask and with the assistance of electronics they were consistently superior. I shall head off to find that research.
Maybe it wasn't Horizon, was it Jeremy Clarkson?.

[stueytrader]

There is the sex-difference, but there's also the ability-difference question that gets me.

Seen Richard Johnson get completely outridden sometimes by much lower ranked jockeys. Just seems too random a sport in terms of ability to me. Far less consistency in ability shown by jockeys (IMHO). Is like Djokovic losing to an 18 year old qualifier. Yes, it can happen in other sports, but far less so.

When you're comparing jockeys you have to make a comparison between what they've done with what they're riding. Djokovic doesn't have an animal on court to assist him so the comparison doesn't apply. Richard Johnson getting well beaten by an inexperienced jockey doesn't reflect on his skill and ability unless you think he gave his mount a bum ride.

Actually, that was my point, that I've seen this sort of variation in performance even when they are on a horse that's supposed to run well, e.g. when both are on equally priced horses, or sometimes even getting beaten on favourites - I just think jockeys are not consistent (at least compared to other sports at elite level).
Essentially, yes - plenty 'bum rides' can come to mind, for the so-called elite ones.