Australian racing

[Derek27]

The difference between how the main NSW track (Rosehill) trades compared to the main VIC track (Caulfield) still amazes me. It is like night and day.

Probably because most traders aren't able to trade in NSW.

If most people are either backing or laying that might explain why the markets more stable.

[PDC]

what exactly is the difference between caulfield and rosehill?

Some of the differences are the volume of money sat in the market, which imo at Caulfield is much more manipulation, though Rosehill is targeted at times. The money doesn't really want to be matched but instead control the way the price moves.

Another big difference is the make up of the market and how your orders are matched. This is linked in with the above point as well.

I will pop up a couple of screen shots to show what I mean over the next few races at these tracks.

[rik]

Agree both Rosehill and Caulfield very stable but wouldnt know a big difference between the two

[PDC]

Agree both Rosehill and Caulfield very stable but wouldnt know a big difference between the two

You don't notice a difference in how money is matched between the two and how the unmatched money on the ladder behaves?

I am talking about the front of the book here.

Watch the large volumes of unmatched money, particularly on the favourite but any of the 4 figure bundles of cash in the last 30 seconds before the off and then very shortly before the off.

There is a good clue there in what is happening in the market.

[rik]

right much more unmatched at Caulfield, doing better there actually

[PDC]

right much more unmatched at Caulfield, doing better there actually

But watch that unmatched money, how it moves on the ladder in general, how it behaves close to the off, take a large lump out of it and look at your individual matched bets, watch how it reacts to when you take a lump out of it, compare it between the 2 tracks. The are similarities but also differences.

[rik]

usually just take a price if there is little left, otherwise offer my own.
take from a large amount 98% of the time poor value?

[TipTopTrader]

I have been sitting on my hands since race 2 at Caulfield When I backed a loser. Still really keen Rulership in the race 7 Caulfield and will be backing to lay some of my stake as well.

[PDC]

take from a large amount 98% of the time poor value?

Don't understand your post? If you could type in complete sentences it would help, always feel like I am doing a cryptic crossword trying to decipher you posts most of the time

[rik]

you checked out the betmover software? they have fantastic stats and app solely fosued for back to lay inrunning

[rik]

take from a large amount 98% of the time poor value?

Don't understand your post? If you could type in complete sentences it would help, always feel like I am doing a cryptic crossword trying to decipher you posts most of the time

I mean if there is a large amount offered at a price more often than not you should get a better one asking for it

[PDC]

Agreed, I offer almost all of the time tbh.

[PDC]

right much more unmatched at Caulfield, doing better there actually

But watch that unmatched money, how it moves on the ladder in general, how it behaves close to the off, take a large lump out of it and look at your individual matched bets, watch how it reacts to when you take a lump out of it, compare it between the 2 tracks. The are similarities but also differences.

Images taken seconds apart in the Group 1 at Caulfield, spot the differences, no prizes I am afraid:

Now you see it now you dont.png

[PDC]

Granted, one was a Listed race and one was a Group 1 and the prices on the favs are quite different but that is just what happened to be the next races but they still illustrate my points.

Guess which is Rosehill and which is Caulfield (both taken at roughly the same time out from post):

Rosehill v Caulfield.png

Which is going to be easier to get your orders through the market rapidly?

[rik]

left rosehill, right caulfield