Australian racing

[Naffman]

just (again) getting involved with the AUS markets and finding that things seem to do better between GMT 01:30 and 07:30. excuse my ignorance, but is there a similar concept in AUS to our night markets (AW)??

It just seems like such an angular juxtapose when reviewing my results pre and post 07:30 (until cop). i'm using stats to push straight bets onto the market, not trading pre.

Just thoroughbreds or you doing harness too?

it's a mix and tbh, just trying to find my way thro the maze. i shall of course refer online to the nuances and recall Derek saying that harness races are at best trivial and should be avoided. however, it was the timezone between 01:30 and 07:30 that was intriguing me as each day this week, this has been the most profitable period by a factor of 10. In fact, post 07:30, I'd say that the strike rate has gone from > 70% to < 15%. it may be an anomaly and I appreciate that not providing stats on courses, race types and runners will make it difficult to give clear guidance.

fyi - between 01:30 and 07:30 today, I had 21 winners and 3 losers. post 07:30, I have 6 losers and one solitary winner!!

Most harness meetings are on an evening but it could possibly be too early to tell if you've not had many bets

[jimibt]

I get the same feeling though I haven't looked into it, but it appears majority of profits come from before 8am; whereas afterwards it's a bit lacklustre. I am trading not punting. I thought it's perhaps because UK punters start to join in and therefore more money in the markets making prices a tad more efficient? I'm still only a few months in AUS racing and I'll have to take a closer look. Will let you know if i find anything.

thanks, it's a real curiosity. one fellow board member suggested it could be related to some sort of day/night split on what bookies are comfortable staking, thus the night time odds may be less accurate (which for me skews my approach). all conjecture of course

Curious where you are getting your stats on AUS racing though.

i use a direct api apporach that uses betfair stats plus in app form ratings. it's nothing fancy but has evolved after seeing how the odds on certain races tie together in relation to certain historic form elements. is a little course to say the least, but does seem to operate well in those earlier hours...

baffling and annoying.

Of course, after 07:30, I could filp the same strategy to being a lay beased one and it MAY bring home the bacon as it's placing between 50% and 65% book

[jimibt]

Most harness meetings are on an evening but it could possibly be too early to tell if you've not had many bets

this could be the case - in both senses!!

[Derek27]

just (again) getting involved with the AUS markets and finding that things seem to do better between GMT 01:30 and 07:30. excuse my ignorance, but is there a similar concept in AUS to our night markets (AW)??

It just seems like such an angular juxtapose when reviewing my results pre and post 07:30 (until cop). i'm using stats to push straight bets onto the market, not trading pre.

Just thoroughbreds or you doing harness too?

it's a mix and tbh, just trying to find my way thro the maze. i shall of course refer online to the nuances and recall Derek saying that harness races are at best trivial and should be avoided. however, it was the timezone between 01:30 and 07:30 that was intriguing me as each day this week, this has been the most profitable period by a factor of 10. In fact, post 07:30, I'd say that the strike rate has gone from > 70% to < 15%. it may be an anomaly and I appreciate that not providing stats on courses, race types and runners will make it difficult to give clear guidance.

fyi - between 01:30 and 07:30 today, I had 21 winners and 3 losers. post 07:30, I have 6 losers and one solitary winner!!

I've really been getting into harness racing lately but it's just small stakes fun trying to catch a big swing.

[TipTopTrader]

Muntaseera to spank them in race 1 Flemington!

[TipTopTrader]

I took the spanking!

[rik]

lucky start flemington only one i had big plus won lunar fox
big races good luck everyone

[mcgoo]

nice to start the day for a share (small) of the first 4 at Flemington

[PDC]

Just noticed that Sky Sports Radio is working for the first time in a very long time on the Simple Radio app but it still isn't working via the website in the UK.

It is badly delayed now though.

[TipTopTrader]

Spend looks like a great price race 3 Flemington

[Anbell]

just (again) getting involved with the AUS markets and finding that things seem to do better between GMT 01:30 and 07:30. excuse my ignorance, but is there a similar concept in AUS to our night markets (AW)??

ETA: the below is re gallops.

It depends. For actual 'night meetings' under lights, PAKN and CRAN and MVAL should all be reasonable quality racing. They're all in Victoria.

The others arent very good racing. From memory: SCST and TOOW in QLD and Launceston in Tasmania.

There's also the occasional twilight meeting in the summer. Flemington had one on Wednesday.

Then there are time zones... Western Australia is 3 hours behind the east coast in the summer.

[Derek27]

Just noticed that Sky Sports Radio is working for the first time in a very long time on the Simple Radio app but it still isn't working via the website in the UK.

It is badly delayed now though.

Thanks, just downloaded it.

[Anbell]

Big Group racing today FLEM & RAND today. Ellerslie (NZL) too!

[PDC]

Thanks, just downloaded it.

Just be wary of the delay, it is more than the TV pictures on Sky, it used to be as fast as the website version but is now delayed seemingly, the website version still doesn't work for me. TAB Radio is faster.

[Derek27]

Thanks, just downloaded it.

Just be wary of the delay, it is more than the TV pictures on Sky, it used to be as fast as the website version but is now delayed seemingly, the website version still doesn't work for me. TAB Radio is faster.

I'll try it when needed. Randwick's trading much better this week. Wish I kept enough tokens for the full card now.