Cheltenham 2020

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Naffman
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:22 pm
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Dallas wrote:
Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:21 pm


I suspect they'll postpone it rather than behind closed doors
Postpone it until when though? It'll be a good 4-6weeks if it is postponed and then we're in flat season. Aintree festival in Sept/October?
I think thats the most likely target time if they do, perhaps open the jumps season with it
What about Guineas day if the virus is still a threat though?
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Listening to one of the Westminster "thinktank" (and reading between the lines)

They tend to believe events in wide open spaces, plenty of fresh air, is a lower priority and less likely to spread the virus. They say the riskier groups are the enclosed mass events where people are sitting/standing for longer periods of time.....and anyone over 70 should consider staying away.

Rightly or wrongly, their advice will be steered that way and If that's their thinking, Cheltenham is nailed on to go ahead...and quite likely the Grand National.....and any horse racing event for that matter.
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FWIW .. A friends Dad has the Virus (from Italy).

He was with his 20 yr old son for 30 mins, and son doesn't have it.
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megarain wrote:
Sat Mar 07, 2020 11:42 am
FWIW .. A friends Dad has the Virus (from Italy).

He was with his 20 yr old son for 30 mins, and son doesn't have it.
That's the tricky bit, it's hard to tell for sure if someone has it or not, there are far too many false negatives even on clearly very sick people.

In other news, Saudi Arabia is apparently playing a real live version of Game of Thrones. Too bad nobody cares at this point.
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Seems all one way now...

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New cases today were at the low end of expectations.
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If ever the phrase "Do as I say not as I do" was appropriate:

https://twitter.com/sophieraworth/statu ... 0823217152
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it's interesting how the rationale of this has all but gone, HOWEVER I feel the BHA could well be in line for a complete lambasting if even one link to the Chelt Fest is proven to have spread beyond the ecosystem of the event. It's a kind of PR disaster where you ignore the prescient intel in favour of the stiff upper lip (tho tbh -they are ACTING within present guidlines, but maybe that's not enough. maybe they need to take a lead).

We all suffer from this but shouldn't allow a short-term strategy (profit) to eclipse a longer term fallout...

btw -no position in the market, just looking from the viewpoint of a statistically empowered neutral...
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I saw the jump in odds today, but the number of new cases is more or less in line with expectations.

I think it's a tricky one. We will very likely see 1000 by this time next week. Whether you can control that or not by limiting sports events is an open question. If so all footy should be behind closed doors with immediate effect.
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350-370 tomorrow I reckon.

A friend of ours whose daughter lives in Haslemere has fallen ill today. She is a GP, so we will know fairly soon if it's related to her daughter or practice. So it's likely one step away from us now.
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Euler wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 9:24 pm
I saw the jump in odds today, but the number of new cases is more or less in line with expectations.

I think it's a tricky one. We will very likely see 1000 by this time next week. Whether you can control that or not by limiting sports events is an open question. If so all footy should be behind closed doors with immediate effect.
You can't control this.
It's now on the loose. For healthy people it's not lethal. The issue is about limiting the spread to protect the vulnerable until a vaccine is available. That message only seems partly understood. On my daily walk people give me a wide berth. Fair play.
Conversely, in a supermarket shop a horrible loud female was quite happy to conduct a conversation from my right shoulder to her friend, several feet from my left shoulder. Essentially she was splattering me with her spit.
Why are people so stupid?

But as Kai aluded to, there are far worse situations. For example, Syria, Yemen and being 1 of the 6 billion in poverty.
Quite what coronovirus will do to that 6 billion is unknown but deeply disturbing.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:22 pm
The issue is about limiting the spread to protect the vulnerable until a vaccine is available.
The aim is to delay the spread until the summertime to reduce pressure on the NHS. There's no realistic chance of delaying it until a vaccine is produced, which could be a year or so away.
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South Korea seems to be leading by example but not many are following suit, they literally declared war on the virus and are doing all sorts of aggressive testing and cleanup strategies.

Big shout-out to the real heroes out there, the world could use a lot more of them!

When there's a strange cough in your neighborhood, who you gonna call?

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Close enough, couldn't resist. :)

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FYI if you don't get a fever then chances are you don't have the virus, for example my cold progressed to a runny nose today and I never had a fever. The virus may stick around like influenza did since it's obviously pretty contagious, we already develop new vaccines (flu shots) for influenza every year, so we may have to do the same for Covid19.

Short breakdown of all the typical symptoms based on the Chinese cases:
- fever (87.9%)
- dry cough (67.7%)
- fatigue (38.1%)
- sputum production (33.4%)
- shortness of breath (18.6%)
- sore throat (13.9%)
- headache (13.6%)
- myalgia or arthralgia (14.8%)
- chills (11.4%)
- nausea or vomiting (5.0%)
- nasal congestion (4.8%)
- diarrhea (3.7%)
- hemoptysis (0.9%)
- conjunctival congestion (0.8%)
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Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:29 am
South Korea seems to be leading by example but not many are following suit, they literally declared war on the virus and are doing all sorts of aggressive testing and cleanup strategies.

Big shout-out to the real heroes out there, the world could use a lot more of them!

When there's a strange cough in your neighborhood, who you gonna call?

Image

Close enough, couldn't resist. :)

Image

FYI if you don't get a fever then chances are you don't have the virus, for example my cold progressed to a runny nose today and I never had a fever. The virus may stick around like influenza did since it's obviously pretty contagious, we already develop new vaccines (flu shots) for influenza every year, so we may have to do the same for Covid19.

Short breakdown of all the typical symptoms based on the Chinese cases:
- fever (87.9%)
- dry cough (67.7%)
- fatigue (38.1%)
- sputum production (33.4%)
- shortness of breath (18.6%)
- sore throat (13.9%)
- headache (13.6%)
- myalgia or arthralgia (14.8%)
- chills (11.4%)
- nausea or vomiting (5.0%)
- nasal congestion (4.8%)
- diarrhea (3.7%)
- hemoptysis (0.9%)
- conjunctival congestion (0.8%)
I noticed South Korea's low mortality rate (0.7 when i last looked). I wondered about that. Is it superior modus operandi? Or a generally healthier population?
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