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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:37 pm
.... Joking aside, has anyone worked out the total amount of money that can theoretically be extracted as profit from aus racing? Ie how much there is to go around? I'm sure someone out there has worked it out.
What algorithm would you use? Finding the highest and lowest price where £x traded?
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:33 pm
Euler wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:35 am
What's the outlook for Aussie racing at the moment? It's been a mini lifeline for me this week.
A lifeline??? You're that last person I thought would be skint if you had a few weeks off. If you need to borrow a few quid then I'm sure we could have a whip round for you ;)

Tbh at times like this I thought you'd cut down on bulk buying money and give the rest of us a shot at the limited supply. :D
It'll be a lifesaver if he has to self-isolate. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:11 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:37 pm
.... Joking aside, has anyone worked out the total amount of money that can theoretically be extracted as profit from aus racing? Ie how much there is to go around? I'm sure someone out there has worked it out.
What algorithm would you use? Finding the highest and lowest price where £x traded?
It's tricky, the extractable profit is basically the spread or overround. But as different amounts are traded when that's at different levels then it's one formula too many for me.
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jimibt wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:45 pm
surely that's a function of liquidity?? therefore, if more folk lump on, then there will be more opposing money on either side.

Yes. But it not all liquidy is useful. Money offered at uncompetitive prices which just sits there is no good to anyone. It must surely be a function of the traded amounts and the spread. But the spread changes over time, so you'd have to get into differentiation which unfortunately is a maths lesson I missed.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pm
jimibt wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:45 pm
surely that's a function of liquidity?? therefore, if more folk lump on, then there will be more opposing money on either side.

Yes. But it not all liquidy is useful. Money offered at uncompetitive prices which just sits there is no good to anyone. It must surely be a function of the traded amounts and the spread. But the spread changes over time, so you'd have to get into differentiation which unfortunately is a maths lesson I missed.
i missed that one too. obviously, if you're offering outside the spread, then you MAY just need to be a little closer then you would on a high liquidity UK race?? No??

It will be interesting to see (as a %age) how much more volume os going thro those markets as an avg comparison on season and race type than before the UK racing was suspended.
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... The amount of money we all have to share is a puzzle that's bothered me for quite a while. It's not a bottomless pit. Market X can only ever provide £Y amount in wages. If the mega traders are extracting Y-£50 then we all have to share the remaining £50.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:33 pm
Tbh at times like this I thought you'd cut down on bulk buying money and give the rest of us a shot at the limited supply. :D
LOL, I'm not that active, but always feel the need to have something running. Like a Tennis player going to the court to practice his serve.
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Euler wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:38 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:33 pm
Tbh at times like this I thought you'd cut down on bulk buying money and give the rest of us a shot at the limited supply. :D
LOL, I'm not that active, but always feel the need to have something running. Like a Tennis player going to the court to practice his serve.
:D I get it. But if you could limit yourself to a couple of hundered per race that would be greatly appreciated.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pm
...which unfortunately is a maths lesson I missed.
I missed quite a few in the spring and summer as I had double maths on a Thursday afternoon! ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:52 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pm
...which unfortunately is a maths lesson I missed.
I missed quite a few in the spring and summer as I had double maths on a Thursday afternoon! ;)
Mmm I was asked to 'work from home' for the last part of my final year for bugging the staff room. Quite a bold move in 1980 when it meant using a cassette recorder, I think the huge click when it stopped was my downfall.
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Group 1 tomorrow morning 9.30am

Sunnshine Coast got an 11 race card too
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:10 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:52 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:24 pm
...which unfortunately is a maths lesson I missed.
I missed quite a few in the spring and summer as I had double maths on a Thursday afternoon! ;)
Mmm I was asked to 'work from home' for the last part of my final year for bugging the staff room. Quite a bold move in 1980 when it meant using a cassette recorder, I think the huge click when it stopped was my downfall.
I thought this story was shaping as a precursor to coronavirus : COVID-1980.
Did they nab you when you returned to collect the recorder or find your favourite party mix on the other side of the tape?
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:54 am
rik wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:13 am
take SP then if not matched?
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I meant if you take Start Price all your unmatched bets as you mentioned Albury trades well right before the off.
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Mooney Valley should have by far the best turnover today or Sunshine Coast? 50- 100k a race or think more than that as no english racing? not sure i will put an alarm
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Wildly wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:01 am
Did they nab you when you returned to collect the recorder or find your favourite party mix on the other side of the tape?
lol narr, it was the std "who did it" and a bunch of snakes who all pointed at me :roll: It wasn't a huge crime, but one too many and a bit too soon after we'd changed the paint code numbers they'd written on all the walls prior to the decorators coming in. Harmless fun in gentler times, these days you're not expelled unless you've stabbed a teacher.
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