Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[Archery1969]

Dont understand why everyone criticizing the government for not testing enough.

Its fairly obvious that we dont have the infrastucture or baseline to test on a large scale. Germany does because it has the Roche group which at the drop of a hat can switch to testing capacity of 100,000 per day. The UK has never had that capability under any government. France doesnt either and are even having to transfer patients to Germany as they dont have enough ICU.

Also, who is going to be doing this testing as i assume you need a trained medic/person to administer them correctly so you dont get a false reading. I doubt the NHS have spare capacity, so who, Auntie Dottie ?

[greenmark]

Dont understand why everyone criticizing the government for not testing enough.

Its fairly obvious that we dont have the infrastucture or baseline to test on a large scale. Germany does because it has the Roche group which at the drop of a hat can switch to testing capacity of 100,000 per day. The UK has never had that capability under any government. France doesnt either and are even having to transfer patients to Germany as they dont have enough ICU.

Also, who is going to be doing this testing as i assume you need a trained medic/person to administer them correctly so you dont get a false reading. I doubt the NHS have spare capacity, so who, Auntie Dottie ?

It's becoming political. Which I believe is really inappropriate right now. But for sure, all govts will be held to account.
For me being in the UK, I'm beginning to get an uncomfortable feeling we've been preparing for the worst all along, rather than following the South Korean or Japan model. Time will tell on this more surely than any other issue out there (except climate). The virus doesn't give a s**t about politics.

[greenmark]

Whoa! Senior nurse Donna Kinnair on question time referring to Nightingale as being 'end of life care'.
What????!!!!!

[Archery1969]

Whoa! Senior nurse Donna Kinnair on question time referring to Nightingale as being 'end of life care'.
What????!!!!!

Yeah, i had suspected that all along.

[greenmark]

Whoa! Senior nurse Donna Kinnair on question time referring to Nightingale as being 'end of life care'.
What????!!!!!

Yeah, i had suspected that all along.

Social distance like a demon - be OCD - save lives!!

[mobius]

Gooood Moooorning Vietnam.
a depressing start 1million.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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And for those people who like numbercrunching
https://www.worldometers.info/

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But we need to put this in perspective

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The https://www.worldometers.info/ Site has moving numbers maybe BetAngel can produce a screen for the ghoulishly inclined or the optimistically inclined...............
101,295Births today
~60 sec
102,007Births today
and
59,411Net population growth today
~60sec
59,549Net population growth today

There's hope!

[Anbell]

Why on earth is abortion on that list??

[wearthefoxhat]

Whoa! Senior nurse Donna Kinnair on question time referring to Nightingale as being 'end of life care'.
What????!!!!!

Yeah, i had suspected that all along.

It come under the umbrella of palliative care.

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[Jukebox]

Whoa! Senior nurse Donna Kinnair on question time referring to Nightingale as being 'end of life care'.
What????!!!!!

Yeah, i had suspected that all along.

It come under the umbrella of palliative care.


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As they currently only quote hospital figures it doesn't look like you fair much better currently

Closed Cases
3,056
Cases which had an outcome:
135 (4%)
Recovered / Discharged

2,921 (96%)
Deaths

[Archery1969]

Seems to me the UK has a shockingly low recovery rate.

UK
Cases: 33,718
Deaths: 2,921
Recovered: 135

France
Cases: 59,105
Deaths: 4,503
Recovered: 12,428

[mobius]

Why on earth is abortion on that list??

Dunno.
If you click on the [+] you get

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And if you click on this year it will switch to today etc.

It's the Seasonal Flu that would be most relevant imo - ye' dinnae get a lot of malaria in Scotland. But the weather's nae too bad.

All the "numbers/facts" are up in the air right now.
BBC.CO.UK https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/51393288
Coronavirus: Can you separate myth from fact?
6 Feb 20206 Feb 2020
THE OFFICIAL ADVICE ON CORONAVIRUS HAS BEEN UPDATED SINCE THIS VIDEO WAS PRODUCED - FOR THE LATEST INFORMATION, CLICK HERE.
The coronavirus has infected thousands of people across the world, closed borders and put parts of China on lockdown.
Although it might all sound scary it's actually similar to the flu.
Lots of information has been doing the rounds about the virus and not all of it is true.
So Leah's been busting some myths about the coronavirus to help you tell the difference between myth and fact.

[wearthefoxhat]

Seems to me the UK has a shockingly low recovery rate.

UK
Cases: 33,718
Deaths: 2,921
Recovered: 135

France
Cases: 59,105
Deaths: 4,503
Recovered: 12,428

Seems to show that the UK are only admitting the ones that are virtually beyond help and need an air ventilator as a minimum requirement.

An air ventilator is seen more as a last resort and only given to those where there is a chance of surviving. Who lives and who dies is a choice doctors make every day and even more so at these times.

[Derek27]

Why on earth is abortion on that list??

...or cigarettes smoked today?

[Derek27]

Seems to me the UK has a shockingly low recovery rate.

UK
Cases: 33,718
Deaths: 2,921
Recovered: 135

France
Cases: 59,105
Deaths: 4,503
Recovered: 12,428

Given that we've tested so few people those figures won't be accurate. There will be many people who caught the virus and recovered without incrementing the stats.

[Kai]

a depressing start 1million.

It will make for a fancy headline today but it's kind of a pointless milestone since that number was probably reached a long time ago, if not in China alone then with China and Iran combined.

Plenty of people (especially quants and data nerds etc) are suggesting that the world overreacted to the pandemic when looking at the numbers, but I think it's much the opposite. Numbers are only numbers and don't really mean anything without context.