Australian racing

[Euler]

Seriously, well done for banging in some decent results.

[PDC]

Seriously, well done for banging in some decent results.

Thanks, means a lot coming from you.

Some crazy gambles atm

Yes been a good end to the session, one of those sessions you don't want to end.

[Anbell]

I was going to ask the same, any input would be appreciated.

With all the obvious disclaimers, there really is the general sense that things will keep going. It's surprising, but there doesnt seem to be any daily chatter about whether it'll be off next week or whatever.

[Lutruwita]

I was going to ask the same, any input would be appreciated.

With all the obvious disclaimers, there really is the general sense that things will keep going. It's surprising, but there doesnt seem to be any daily chatter about whether it'll be off next week or whatever.

There wasn't in Tasmania, either. Came out of the blue. Although being an island with few cases Tasmania is obviously a very unique case.

[rik]

getting better at this, lets go harness racing also been better turnover since most other sport is cancelled!

[PDC]

I was going to ask the same, any input would be appreciated.

With all the obvious disclaimers, there really is the general sense that things will keep going. It's surprising, but there doesnt seem to be any daily chatter about whether it'll be off next week or whatever.

Thank you for that information.

I think there has to be a good chance now that Royal Ascot doesn't happen. Hopefully they are allowed to race behind closed doors by then as pressure on the health service has lifted but I agree with the betting that it is about 1.27 to be on at all.

I can't see restrictions even beginning to be lifted in the UK until into May and think there is next to no chance of horse racing starting up on May 1st.

Although we potentially are seeing a levelling off in new cases we are still at 4,500 odd new cases a day and still not 2 weeks into "lock down" so scope yet for daily cases to rise more.

With a roughly 3 week lead from contracting to needing hospitalisation we are about 3 - 4 weeks away from being at potentially peak NHS demand/death. Which takes us to the end of April/beginning of May.

We will then have a long slow tail to new cases and NHS demand/deaths with many of the patients requiring long stays.

Then as we have restrictions lifted there is potential for an upsurge again and the government is going to be wary of lifting restrictions too quickly and to far.

Therefore, I don't see horse racing being able to request medical services when the NHS is at near full capacity and way beyond normal capacity which they would be far exceeding but for measures such as cancelling all operations bar urgent ones.

So hopefully Oz can carry on racing as I don't think we will see a return to it in the UK anytime soon and I don't see Ireland returning any time soon either as they are seeing ever increasing daily cases and therefore they will have increasing deaths for a long time yet.

I would be interested to hear others time scales for UK racing and the thinking behind it (probably should have posted most of the above on the Today racing thread and not on here, sorry).

[Anbell]

There wasn't in Tasmania, either. Came out of the blue. Although being an island with few cases Tasmania is obviously a very unique case.

True.

And I don't consume talkback radio or any of that. I only listen to the 'official' channels - sky racing, during race day, so maybe they have an official line not to discuss the possibility (it almost seems so)

TBH there was a bigger push to shut down racing during the Melb Cup with the #BanTheCup or whatever it was... but I live in Byron, and we dance to a different tune here

[Anbell]

Jeepers - 100k matched at Alice Springs. lol

[Vorogue18]

Yep our Aus racing keeps chugging along surprisingly, but I wouldn't get too comfortable just yet. Race clubs have done a pretty decent job at isolating stables and jocks to certain regions so far....the threat of losing many Autumn feature dollars acting as a strong incentive for all participants to do the right things. As self designated captain of the family I read more than I would like to about CV, tell the wife and kids to avoid the depressing headlines and I just pass on any info they need to know (haven't let any of them out of the house for 6 days). So this is my likely uneducated outlook...

Our geographical location and abundance of space has afforded the country the 'luxury' of preparing relatively in advance for the onslaught. Stimulus packages, police presence, business policies, school closures and holidays, hygeine habits etc have all been put into place well before the numbers spiralled out of control, in comparison to most other countries. Many still take a while to catch on but it seems the extra time we've had has offset any public lethargy and the curve has already begun to flatten with our peak now expected in 4-8 weeks. I sense impatience and complacency is knocking at the door and from what I read and hear from you guys overseas, the moment you drop your guard the virus spreads untracked very quickly. Our timeline seems different so hopefully Aus racing closures will coincide with other countries reopening, but I would be surprised if we last more than 4, 5 maybe 6 weeks before the industry is too littered with potential or confirmed cases to continue. The brewing theory is 3 or 4 lockdowns decreasing in length over the next 12-18 months...

Hope I'm wrong and Racing Oz Style continues to defy the tote boards...

[PDC]

Thanks for that, interesting reading. Fingers crossed for you all in Oz.

Stay healthy everyone - until next Saturday (fingers crossed) I will bid the forum a goodbye

[rik]

its down testing as well but there were less new cases this week than last week in australia so thats looking very good most countries still have exponential growth even with lockdown

[Vorogue18]

All indicators are very good but just feel there must be a bigger sting to come. Seeing the dramatic increases in Europe and US, I can't imagine we are immune to that just because of distance or policy. Aussies aren't that disciplined unless the virus lost some of it's puff by the time it got to Singapore, Indonesia, Aus and NZ?

Easter and schools re-open in 10 days for at least some staff and children of essential workers, coinciding with a peak in cases, so the next month will tell a lot...obviously. Just demorilising watching the numbers overseas....

[spreadbetting]

getting better at this, lets go harness racing also been better turnover since most other sport is cancelled!

Nice results, how was the trading overnight and liquidity? My bots had a decent night making around £750 but the results were all over the place rather than lots of small wins and losses like they'd usually be.

[Wildly]

If I was you I would have stopped long ago trying to convince people, if they don't listen thats up to them but I wouldn't waste my time with it. I get you have to put out content for the software/brand but as you say "nothing you do will change that" so I would stop trying to.

It's actually one of the most valuable lessons I've learnt through trading. There aren't many times in life when you know you are definitely right, but with trading, you know that as it's reflected on your P&L. Trading taught me that even if you know 100% you are right people will still argue with you and there is nothing you can do about it. It was a revelation to me.

Do the ozzies on here think that Oz racing is going to carry on as is?

I had thought it would be off by now but the CV outbreak seems to be going "better" in oz so there aren't the same demands on health care as there is in the UK.

It is hard to judge how it is going down under though from the other side of the world. So would be interested to hear peoples views?

https://www.covid19data.com.au/
has data that should help you

Threatening racing continuing, there are plenty of stupid people.

NSW authorities handliing of the Ruby Princess cruise ship meant 342 cases of the state total of 2493 total came from that ship.

Some people are stupid.

In Victoria Police continue to conduct checks on those return travellers who should be at home self-isolating and have found of 391 people checked, 99 were not at home. Police fine 25 of them.

In racing, Queensland apprentice jockey Zoe White has been suspended for 6 months. Moving her work to another part of the state required her to isolate for 14 days. She didn't self-isolate, she rode trackwork.

At Randwick today jockeys and trainers were kept at a distance that allowed bare minimum communication.

Racing is doing what it can.
But some people are stupid.

No answer to your question
You've been at this a while now
Predicting the future
Takes some doing

[Derek27]

I found myself getting distracted in the middle of the session, easily done.

Especially by that blond on the Colgate Max Ultimate advert.

Well done on the Doomben market. I took an early night, I just couldn't get into swing.