Today's Horse Racing

[spreadbetting]

I was talking to Neil about this a while ago, it's a shed load of effort for an uncertain outcome.

Could say the same about all API access to be honest.

If I was a better coder I'd probably have taken up the offer as I reckon it would actually be quite useful. Anything that gives you a leg up over the opposition has got to be a bonus. Seemed to be beyond my pay grade having to match the GPS data with the Gmax Race Route Data, maybe one day I'll actually get round to it and nice to know it's available.

[Naffman]

Betfair really are scraping the barrel if they expect the Swedish trots to become the moneymaker.

But like you said they'll be hurting badly, I'd almost expect betdaq to fold soon

[PDC]

What am I missing?

Royal Ascot, on 16th June at Ascot to go ahead is 2.66

Will racing resume on or before 1st June is 1.85.

So are people thinking Ascot will most likely either not take place at all even if racing resumes on or before 1st June or if it does resume Royal Ascot won't be at Ascot but another track instead?

Seems odd betting to me. Though tbh I would not be surprised if racing is not on at all before June 1st.

[Derek27]

What am I missing?

Royal Ascot, on 16th June at Ascot to go ahead is 2.66

Will racing resume on or before 1st June is 1.85.

So are people thinking Ascot will most likely either not take place at all even if racing resumes on or before 1st June or if it does resume Royal Ascot won't be at Ascot but another track instead?

Seems odd betting to me. Though tbh I would not be surprised if racing is not on at all before June 1st.

There's no guarantee that RA will take place even if racing resumes before then. Most trainers would want to give their runners a prep run before a big race. Personally I think it would be a complete farce if it took place shortly after resumption.

[PDC]

There's no guarantee that RA will take place even if racing resumes before then. Most trainers would want to give their runners a prep run before a big race. Personally I think it would be a complete farce if it took place shortly after resumption.

I get there is no guarantee that it will take place but they have made it pretty clear they do intend to run it behind closed doors if possible.

Most trainers in an ideal world would want to get a prep run in before a big race but that won't obviously be an option this year so I am sure many trainers will happily run without a prep run and owners will want to secure a Royal Ascot winner for obvious reasons but also it increases the value of a horse hugely and if a filly her progeny for many many years to come and the siblings of the filly/colt.

Also with modern training facilities you can quite easily get most horses race fit first time out.

I don't see any reason why it would be a farce for it to take place shortly after resumption, what reasons do you see for it being a farce?

[Derek27]

I don't see any reason why it would be a farce for it to take place shortly after resumption, what reasons do you see for it being a farce?

I'm talking from a racing fans point of view. It would be like having a series of group one races at the Doncaster opening meeting. The group ones won't be real group ones. The St. James sometimes has a clash between the British, Irish and French 2000 Guineas winners and eagerly anticipated. Now you'll have colts who haven't run since they were two and you won't even know if they've trained on and retained their ability.

What about the Coventry Stakes, are they going to rename it the Coventry Novices Stakes - Group 2?

[Naffman]

I don't see any reason why it would be a farce for it to take place shortly after resumption, what reasons do you see for it being a farce?

I'm talking from a racing fans point of view. It would be like having a series of group one races at the Doncaster opening meeting. The group ones won't be real group ones. The St. James sometimes has a clash between the British, Irish and French 2000 Guineas winners and eagerly anticipated. Now you'll have colts who haven't run since they were two and you won't even know if they've trained on and retained their ability.

What about the Coventry Stakes, are they going to rename it the Coventry Novices Stakes - Group 2?

Exactly, and why are they planning to use Lingfield as the southern track, if Ascot had the facilities they'd surely run there instead of on the aw

[Euler]

I'd imagine racing will be very conscious of the negative publicity if a jockey or somebody gets injured and has to go to hospital. There are all sorts of problem with the season failing to start on time, so that's a problem as well. But a shot at a Royal Ascot winner would probably mean people will forgo that.

Australia doesn't seem to have a problem running behind closed doors.

[PDC]

I'd imagine racing will be very conscious of the negative publicity if a jockey or somebody gets injured and has to go to hospital.

I don't think that will be much of a consideration tbh. If they can get medical cover to run meetings they will run racing again. I don't think negative publicity will factor much into the decision making.

The biggest issue I see is getting that medical cover. The only reason the NHS is coping at the moment is due to all the extraordinary measures that have been taken such as cancelling a lot of treatment and surgery and expanding the ICU etc capacity significantly while lowering the patient to staff ratio to below optimal/normal levels.

How we get back to some form of normality on the NHS front which has to happen really before resources are likely to be freed up for "Sports" to take place is going to be a very difficult question to answer. Treatments and operations that are currently being postponed will to a large extent have to start up again at some point though some of that will be reduced due to the fact some of these patients will have now died.

Also resources that have been switched to Covid will have to return to their normal use in time.

As we lift restrictions on the public though infections will carry on and likely rise thus leading to higher demands on the NHS.

Although some months away we are not actually that far away from winter and the added pressures that come on the NHS with that. In recent years we have been very lucky to have a mild winter last year and not a bad flu season for some time. If either of those happen or both added with Covid it will be very demanding on an already stretched NHS.

It is ultimately something that we are going to have to some how learn to live with - it is going to be difficult and a tricky path to negotiate.

How racing fits into that is hard to work out but I think the summer racing will be quite different to normal and winter racing is going to be difficult to stage potentially at all.

Time will tell and hopefully I am wrong but I am yet to hear about any real solutions to the situation.

[Derek27]

SSR is just showing Tampa for the sake of it, not even previewing the races. Not that it matters if you're trading.

[Derek27]

No US racing today. I just traded Romme in practice mode and missed the start. Difficult when you don't have pictures, probably not worthwhile even if you do, unless it's just to get your trading fix for the day.

[paspuggie48]

No US racing today. I just traded Romme in practice mode and missed the start. Difficult when you don't have pictures, probably not worthwhile even if you do, unless it's just to get your trading fix for the day.

Tried a bit of Romme myself today Derek27 for a bit of practice...wouldn't mind, but the markets are too slow, very unpredicatble, not enough liq'ty.
As for not having pictures, I had the same with Oz racing this morning...let's just say I had a lay bet and forgot to place "Keep SP" on the back bet..let's just say I burnt my toast again...one day I hope to learn

[Derek27]

No US racing today. I just traded Romme in practice mode and missed the start. Difficult when you don't have pictures, probably not worthwhile even if you do, unless it's just to get your trading fix for the day.

Tried a bit of Romme myself today Derek27 for a bit of practice...wouldn't mind, but the markets are too slow, very unpredicatble, not enough liq'ty.
As for not having pictures, I had the same with Oz racing this morning...let's just say I had a lay bet and forgot to place "Keep SP" on the back bet..let's just say I burnt my toast again...one day I hope to learn

Most Auzzie races are on Sky Sports (until they switch to Hong Kong) and they nearly always start on time to within a couple of minutes, so It's not so bad. You can just close shop at off time.

[Naffman]

Pretty sure RSA races begin on Friday, be interesting to see how that will affect American racing (I reckon we will see a big drop, maybe half)

[auto-matt]

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