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Naffman
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Derek27 wrote: ↑
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 does anyone have an opinion on what is a decent amount of money for a market to be considered tradable? for example Will Rogers US got up to around 200k a couple times the other day. it still seems like the American markets trade a bit differently than in the UK to me
Anything under £100K is quite poor, but I define a tradable market as any market that you can make money on - turnover is just one factor. Activity, volatility, fill-rates are all relevant.
Exactly just because a market like Tampa or Will Roger's gets 200k doesn't mean it's better to trade than a market that has 75k, trading styles and strategies will suit different markets
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Naffman wrote: ↑
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Derek27 wrote: ↑
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stefan084 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:12 pm
 does anyone have an opinion on what is a decent amount of money for a market to be considered tradable? for example Will Rogers US got up to around 200k a couple times the other day. it still seems like the American markets trade a bit differently than in the UK to me
Anything under £100K is quite poor, but I define a tradable market as any market that you can make money on - turnover is just one factor. Activity, volatility, fill-rates are all relevant.
Exactly just because a market like Tampa or Will Roger's gets 200k doesn't mean it's better to trade than a market that has 75k, trading styles and strategies will suit different markets
If you have a worthwhile £100 trade on a US race, £400 turnover is all you need. ;)

There's a new US market at Fonner Park that's sprung up out of the blue. Wasn't on the list this morning.
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Almost had a heart attack when I missed the start at Will Rogers. Didn't have much to lose but the unexpected sound of a race in-play scares the shit out of me. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote: ↑
Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:48 pm
 Almost had a heart attack when I missed the start at Will Rogers. Didn't have much to lose but the unexpected sound of a race in-play scares the shit out of me. :lol:
Yeah I saw that -there has been a lot of in play cockups recently
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Has anyone found the Swedish trots worth trading?
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Not surprising to hear Tom Dascombe complaining but if he seriously thinks racing should start now he's deluded.

Hearing how worried he is though I can imagine a lot of small flat trainers going bust in the next few months.
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Made a loss this week, but it went all the way down to the wire. :)
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Strange Betfair don't appear to have any place markets for the US racing tonight?
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 Strange Betfair don't appear to have any place markets for the US racing tonight?
Perhaps less is more? So they get people to concentrate solely on the win markets I reckon and increase liquidity that way
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Naffman wrote: ↑
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ANGELS15 wrote: ↑
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 Strange Betfair don't appear to have any place markets for the US racing tonight?
Perhaps less is more? So they get people to concentrate solely on the win markets I reckon and increase liquidity that way
They've put them in place now.
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Naffman wrote: ↑
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ANGELS15 wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:12 pm
 Strange Betfair don't appear to have any place markets for the US racing tonight?
Perhaps less is more? So they get people to concentrate solely on the win markets I reckon and increase liquidity that way
They've put them in place now.
Dont mind me :lol:
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You don't often see graphs like this at Will Rogers.
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The extra liquidity can sometimes be a hindrance. Market not moving much but fill-rate too poor to scalp.
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us racing just doesnt work as well for me as uk or australian racing, not sure what exactly is the problem but clearly other then going for pennies conservatively its a waste of time for me at the moment unfortunately
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 us racing just doesnt work as well for me as uk or australian racing, not sure what exactly is the problem but clearly other then going for pennies conservatively its a waste of time for me at the moment unfortunately
You're not missing much, I just got a few quid out of tonight's meetings.
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Derek27 wrote: ↑
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rik wrote: ↑
Mon Apr 20, 2020 10:52 pm
 us racing just doesnt work as well for me as uk or australian racing, not sure what exactly is the problem but clearly other then going for pennies conservatively its a waste of time for me at the moment unfortunately
You're not missing much, I just got a few quid out of tonight's meetings.
well I lost the 3 races i done price moving through my stake more often than not even though turnover is better than most australian i cant sensibly stake the same, my guess is there are less punter more trader/bots more complicated for me even inrunning is harder
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