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rik
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jameegray1 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:58 pm
If I may just check this with you guys...

Whilst on 2% commission my "Commission Generated" goes up by 1% of the gross value of all my winning markets and goes up by 1.5% of the gross value of all losing markets.

Therefore if I was to add +£1,000 gross of winning markets and -£1,000 gross of losing markets to my weekly activity this would have the affect of increasing my "Commission Generated" by £25.

Have I got this correct?
yes 1% if on 2% plan, for losing markets will always stay at 1,5% no matter your own commission rate.

on 2% you pay £20 and generate £25 per 1000 won/lost (1000*1% + 1000*1,5%)

5% you will pay £50 generate £40

8% you pay £80 generate £55 per 1000 won/lost (1000*4%+1000*1,5%)

you will pay £30 less total charges including premium charge per 1000 won and lost if choosing the 2 compared to 8% so if your after highest net profit choose 2% even if your certain you will reach premium charge at some point or already on it and certain you won't drop out of it.
Difference in total charges if on premium charge is half the difference of the commission rate difference.
Would only make sense to chose 5 or 8% if your turnover was small enough for the bonuses t outweigh the commission difference.
If your worried about being below 10% lifetime generated take opposing sides in overlapping markets for example over/under correct score. you will end up paying 30something % instead of 40 or even more than 50 total charges.
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jamesedwards
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Thanks all for advice.
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Kai
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jameegray1 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:53 pm
What is a "Premium customer"???
Great question, but nobody seems to know :D Or they don't feel comfortable talking about it for one reason or another.
spreadbetting
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Think Derek's a VIP or Premium Customer, he knows everything I'm sure he'll be along shortly to tell us.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:29 pm
Think Derek's a VIP or Premium Customer, he knows everything I'm sure he'll be along shortly to tell us.
I thought I asked somebody on here what a premium customer is, did a search and couldn't find it. I'd expect a premium customer to tell us what it is.
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ShaunWhite
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Kai wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:28 pm
jameegray1 wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:53 pm
What is a "Premium customer"???
Great question, but nobody seems to know :D Or they don't feel comfortable talking about it for one reason or another.
Premium customers aren't the sort to be lurking around on a forum like this so unlikely to respond. If you are one you'll know about it, because they'll be taking you out for nice lunches.
tomallen123
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Just got an email saying my betfair plan would be changing from Jan 1st but didn't give any changes.

Not expecting the changes to be positive :evil:
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Euler
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There are premium, VIP, recreational and non-recreational customers.

I'd imagine there are a few premium customers on here. Generally speaking, non-recreational customers with elevated support privileges such as account management. Is how I would describe them.
rik
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Did anyone find out how to check betfair points when selected the 2% Plan as its still relevant for Australian betting? The mobile phone site would still show the points until last week but not anymore
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ShaunWhite
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rik wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:09 pm
Did anyone find out how to check betfair points when selected the 2% Plan as its still relevant for Australian betting? The mobile phone site would still show the points until last week but not anymore
I'm not sure about mobile but you can get to your points statement on the website here -> https://myaccount.betfair.com/rewards/p ... d-holidays
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Euler
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rik wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:09 pm
Did anyone find out how to check betfair points when selected the 2% Plan as its still relevant for Australian betting? The mobile phone site would still show the points until last week but not anymore
No it's not according to my account statements.
rik
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:31 pm
rik wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:09 pm
Did anyone find out how to check betfair points when selected the 2% Plan as its still relevant for Australian betting? The mobile phone site would still show the points until last week but not anymore
I'm not sure about mobile but you can get to your points statement on the website here -> https://myaccount.betfair.com/rewards/p ... d-holidays

thanks that direct link works but still cant find how to get there from the homepage, think they deleted the points section if you selected the 2%
rik
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Euler wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:08 pm
No it's not according to my account statements.
man you often do these short posts where its not clear what you mean.
because you never drop below 150k/60% anyway?
if your certain of paying premium charge in the future your net profit will still differ depending on your commission rate as commission paid and generated can be a few percent apart someone uploaded a spreadsheet on another thread.
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ShaunWhite
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rik wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:25 pm
thanks that direct link works but still cant find how to get there from the homepage, think they deleted the points section if you selected the 2%
Yeah they deleted it and I had the same problem you did. I had a hell of a job convincing support they even still counted for Antipidiean markets, but they do.
rik
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:58 pm
rik wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:25 pm
thanks that direct link works but still cant find how to get there from the homepage, think they deleted the points section if you selected the 2%
Yeah they deleted it and I had the same problem you did. I had a hell of a job convincing support they even still counted for Antipidiean markets, but they do.
you mean they were thinking to put away with points completely so everyone would be 6-10% for Australia?
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