Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[jimibt]

They will come after you in other ways I'd imagine. You could find yourself paying more tax, just by default, the burden could be huge.

Y, the cost of all this to come doesn't bare thinking about, and for the younger generation trying to get a foot hold its going to be even worse

I heard an economist being interviewd on the radio who said that he wouldnt be surprised if the UK pension age was raised to 70.

well, will make sense on a lot of fronts. will mean that mortgages can be extended to 70, rather than 65, thus offsetting (or putting off!) final payments for many that are in the current cusp. also, that would mean additional NI payemtns etc, etc... given the (claimed) medical advances of the last 20 years, it sadly makes sense to extend the expected working age.

[Dallas]

Y, the cost of all this to come doesn't bare thinking about, and for the younger generation trying to get a foot hold its going to be even worse

I heard an economist being interviewd on the radio who said that he wouldnt be surprised if the UK pension age was raised to 70.

well, will make sense on a lot of fronts. will mean that mortgages can be extended to 70, rather than 65, thus offsetting (or putting off!) final payments for many that are in the current cusp. also, that would mean additional NI payemtns etc, etc... given the (claimed) medical advances of the last 20 years, it sadly makes sense to extend the expected working age.

I can foresee some sort of wealth and/or significant changes in the current inheritance tax

[Archery1969]

I heard an economist being interviewd on the radio who said that he wouldnt be surprised if the UK pension age was raised to 70.

well, will make sense on a lot of fronts. will mean that mortgages can be extended to 70, rather than 65, thus offsetting (or putting off!) final payments for many that are in the current cusp. also, that would mean additional NI payemtns etc, etc... given the (claimed) medical advances of the last 20 years, it sadly makes sense to extend the expected working age.

I can foresee some sort of wealth and/or significant changes in the current inheritance tax

Or an Australian type medicare levy of say 5% which is ring fenced for the NHS only.

[Derek27]

You really thought it was Dark Vader all these years?! Hope you didn't think it was Jan Solo and Lou Skywalker At least you have a great excuse to binge watch something good these days, I still haven't seen the last two

We all go through life singing the wrong 1970's lyrics.

I watched Star Wars (used to think it was star walls) and the Empire Strikes Back as a double bill, when I was a teenager. Possibly the most boring 3 hours of my life. All I can remember is having a stiff and painful neck from not being able to move for so long, and in the latter film, a little alien that looked like an ugly human (how imaginative) talking for ages and ages in a desert, in a so-called action-packed film!

[Kai]

You really thought it was Dark Vader all these years?! Hope you didn't think it was Jan Solo and Lou Skywalker At least you have a great excuse to binge watch something good these days, I still haven't seen the last two

We all go through life singing the wrong 1970's lyrics.

I watched Star Wars (used to think it was star walls) and the Empire Strikes Back as a double bill, when I was a teenager. Possibly the most boring 3 hours of my life.

OK Derek I don't think we can be friends anymore, I am forced to add you to my foes list on the forum Have a nice life I guess!!1

[Jukebox]

..... it sadly makes sense to extend the expected working age....

The problem there might be ageism in the workplace - which might not have been a significant problem up to now - but employers will be facing difficulties if they have to make special provisions for those in older age groups and those with age related conditions etc for the forseeable future.

[jimibt]

..... it sadly makes sense to extend the expected working age....

The problem there might be ageism in the workplace - which might not have been a significant problem up to now - but employers will be facing difficulties if they have to make special provisions for those in older age groups and those with age related conditions etc for the forseeable future.

good point... robbing peter to pay paul!

[Derek27]

You really thought it was Dark Vader all these years?! Hope you didn't think it was Jan Solo and Lou Skywalker At least you have a great excuse to binge watch something good these days, I still haven't seen the last two

We all go through life singing the wrong 1970's lyrics.

I watched Star Wars (used to think it was star walls) and the Empire Strikes Back as a double bill, when I was a teenager. Possibly the most boring 3 hours of my life.

OK Derek I don't think we can be friends anymore, I am forced to add you to my foes list on the forum Have a nice life I guess!!1

You've reminded me of when I bought a Harry Potter tee-shirt. I didn't have a clue what the images and signs on the shirt depicted, I thought they were just patterns. When I told that to a 16-year-old shop assistant who complimented me for the shirt I was wearing - she was speechless, put her arms in the air, for a moment I thought she was going to slap me!

[wearthefoxhat]

Makes you think.....As Delia would say..."Where are you?"

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[Dallas]

Its looking like we may be hitting a plato of around 200 deaths per day in hospital, setting aside the impacts of lifting lockdown measures to follow I suspect any further decline from now will be much slower.

I do wonder what sort of number the government have (unpublished) on what they view as an acceptable rate of deaths?

England Hos Deaths.jpg

[Kafkaesque]

Its looking like we may be hitting a plato of around 200 deaths per day in hospital, setting aside the impacts of lifting lockdown measures to follow I suspect any further decline from now will be much slower.

I do wonder what sort of number the government have (unpublished) on what they view as an acceptable rate of deaths?


England Hos Deaths.jpg

My strong suspecion is, given the time frame of a vacine, that all governments - bar the ones run by complete tossers - don't view the death rate as all that relevant. It's a biproduct of the truly important figure: How many cases there are. And even more importantly how many cases severe enough to require hospitalisation.

Any number meaning that the health sector isn't overrun and the personel is kept safe (enough) is acceptable

Any number meaning that the health can return to completely to maintaining all their other functions is ideal.

[Dallas]

Its looking like we may be hitting a plato of around 200 deaths per day in hospital, setting aside the impacts of lifting lockdown measures to follow I suspect any further decline from now will be much slower.

I do wonder what sort of number the government have (unpublished) on what they view as an acceptable rate of deaths?


England Hos Deaths.jpg

My strong suspecion is, given the time frame of a vacine, that all governments - bar the ones run by complete tossers - don't view the death rate as all that relevant. It's a biproduct of the truly important figure: How many cases there are. And even more importantly how many cases severe enough to require hospitalisation.

Any number meaning that the health sector isn't overrun and the personel is kept safe (enough) is acceptable

Any number meaning that the health can return to completely to maintaining all their other functions is ideal.

I did hear a brief report on the TV about a week ago where one MP (i think), suggested that around 4'000 cases a day was a number being thrown about, that would mean about 40 deaths a day would be a ball park figure (can't remember if they said anything on the number of hospital admissions).

[greenmark]

Its looking like we may be hitting a plato of around 200 deaths per day in hospital, setting aside the impacts of lifting lockdown measures to follow I suspect any further decline from now will be much slower.

I do wonder what sort of number the government have (unpublished) on what they view as an acceptable rate of deaths?


England Hos Deaths.jpg

My strong suspecion is, given the time frame of a vacine, that all governments - bar the ones run by complete tossers - don't view the death rate as all that relevant. It's a biproduct of the truly important figure: How many cases there are. And even more importantly how many cases severe enough to require hospitalisation.

Any number meaning that the health sector isn't overrun and the personel is kept safe (enough) is acceptable

Any number meaning that the health can return to completely to maintaining all their other functions is ideal.

I did hear a brief report on the TV about a week ago where one MP (i think), suggested that around 4'000 cases a day was a number being thrown about, that would mean about 40 deaths a day would be a ball park figure (can't remember if they said anything on the number of hospital admissions).

Can't help but feel this is the trough of the current curve of the wavy loch ness monster we're going to see over the next months.
Now we're allowing people to move around, the result has to be more confirmed cases and bad outcomes.
Where I am we have 1500 confirmed from 800,000. But the increase in road traffic alone tells me we're 'balancing' the economy with lives.
Its inevitable that the govt graph of travel over the next few days will show a massive rise.
But I'll watch. with trepidation, the death rate figures over the next 3 weeks. Fingers crossed they've got the timing right.

[jimibt]

this made me laugh so much:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTV9lsib63g

[Derek27]