Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[Kai]

A different kind of pandemic is spreading...

It's not looking great. Minneapolis just voted to disband their police and will replace them with a new type of public safety system.

[Derek27]

Those maps highlight just how little freedom and liberty is appreciated. The oppressive governments of Russia and China must be laughing their heads off at us.

[Derek27]

Some wally Sky News reporter thinks a bunch of anarchists vandalizing a statue is "a historic moment".

[superfrank]

Someone also climbed the Cenotaph in Whitehall and attempted to burn the Union Flag decorating it.
https://youtu.be/Y8m1vfG5Efo

If these people hate the country so much why don't they sod off and live somewhere else.

[to75ne]

Someone also climbed the Cenotaph in Whitehall and attempted to burn the Union Flag decorating it.
https://youtu.be/Y8m1vfG5Efo

Is these people hate the country so much why don't they sod off and live somewhere else.

pink floyds guitarist david gilmour son done something similar during the student fee demos years ago, and he subsequently served a year or so in prison.

the idiot trying to set light to the flag on the cenotaph is easily identifiable and i would expect him to receive/hope and quite rightly so, serve a similar sentence.

no respect in both cases.

[Archery1969]

What next, are we going to take down the statue of Oliver Cromwell because he upset the Irish ?

The police should have used water cannon, tear gas, rubber bullets and the birch.

[to75ne]

What next, are we going to take down the statue of Oliver Cromwell because he upset the Irish ?

i would go along with that, he done more than upset the irish, a right bastard.

[Derek27]

I think the leaders of the British Empire did more than upset a few million people. At the end of the day, history is history and has a place in modern society. Nobody (except neo-nazis) commemorates Adolf Hitler but at the same time nobody attempts to destroy every image or relic of him.

[Trader Pat]

I think the leaders of the British Empire did more than upset a few million people. At the end of the day, history is history and has a place in modern society. Nobody (except neo-nazis) commemorates Adolf Hitler but at the same time nobody attempts to destroy every image or relic of him.

With all the protests against police brutality its interesting to see what the Austrian government are planning on doing with Hitlers birthplace

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... on-braunau

[spreadbetting]

........ Nobody (except neo-nazis) commemorates Adolf Hitler but at the same time nobody attempts to destroy every image or relic of him.

Nobody commemorates Hitler but it's acceptable to commemorate a slave trader with a statue in the middle of one of the UK's largest multicutural cities. People in Bristol have been campaigning for years to have the statue rmoved. It's quite fitting it was dumped in the harbour considering over 20,000 died on his slave ships and were simply dumped at sea. Times change we don't need to live in the past and are quite capable of making our own history.

[superfrank]

People in Bristol have been campaigning for years to have the statue rmoved. It's quite fitting it was dumped in the harbour considering over 20,000 died on his slave ships and were simply dumped at sea. Times change we don't need to live in the past and are quite capable of making our own history.

Such action should be decided by democratic means. It's not for the mob to decide who or what we commemorate.

[Derek27]

........ Nobody (except neo-nazis) commemorates Adolf Hitler but at the same time nobody attempts to destroy every image or relic of him.

Nobody commemorates Hitler but it's acceptable to commemorate a slave trader with a statue in the middle of one of the UK's largest multicutural cities. People in Bristol have been campaigning for years to have the statue rmoved. It's quite fitting it was dumped in the harbour considering over 20,000 died on his slave ships and were simply dumped at sea. Times change we don't need to live in the past and are quite capable of making our own history.

If they've been campaigning for years why didn't they dump it in the river years ago? What could possibly have happened recently that has any relevance to a 17th century MP and slave trader?

I despised Margaret Thatcher but didn't see the point of celebrating the death of an elderly woman with dementia who probably wasn't even aware of the damage she's done. It's one thing downing and smashing up Saddam Husain's statue but to do it for someone who's died over three centuries ago would suggest it's the anarchists that are really living in the past.

[Derek27]

People in Bristol have been campaigning for years to have the statue rmoved. It's quite fitting it was dumped in the harbour considering over 20,000 died on his slave ships and were simply dumped at sea. Times change we don't need to live in the past and are quite capable of making our own history.

Such action should be decided by democratic means. It's not for the mob to decide who or what we commemorate.

For once we've agreed.

[superfrank]

For once we've agreed.

Yay!

Those who defaced Churchill's statue would no doubt have liked to throw it in the Thames - a man voted by the public as the greatest Briton of all time.

There can be no justification for mob rule.

[spreadbetting]

........ Nobody (except neo-nazis) commemorates Adolf Hitler but at the same time nobody attempts to destroy every image or relic of him.

Nobody commemorates Hitler but it's acceptable to commemorate a slave trader with a statue in the middle of one of the UK's largest multicutural cities. People in Bristol have been campaigning for years to have the statue rmoved. It's quite fitting it was dumped in the harbour considering over 20,000 died on his slave ships and were simply dumped at sea. Times change we don't need to live in the past and are quite capable of making our own history.

If they've been campaigning for years why didn't they dump it in the river years ago? What could possibly have happened recently that has any relevance to a 17th century MP and slave trader?

I despised Margaret Thatcher but didn't see the point of celebrating the death of an elderly woman with dementia who probably wasn't even aware of the damage she's done. It's one thing downing and smashing up Saddam Husain's statue but to do it for someone who's died over three centuries ago would suggest it's the anarchists that are really living in the past.

It's irrelevant he died over 3 centuries ago, it was pulled down because of what it represented. If you can't see how black people might be offended at a statue of a slave trader in the middle of the city I think it's more likely you and Frank are living in the past rather than these 'anarchists' as you seem to tag them.