Australian racing

[Naffman]

Good session for me too, after a string of forgettable wednesdays

Yes same, didn't really touch it last week but had a little go yesterday and it felt really poor so I'm glad it felt a little more normal today

Naffman, what sort of sleep schedule do you usually operate on if you don't mind me asking?

Do most of the racing on Wed + Sat but will wake about 4-5am if I work the other days

[eightbo]

Cool thanks mate

[mcgoo]

BF outage at 16:40 local time

[sa7med]

BF outage at 16:40 local time

planned maintenance, although was supposed to start at 7:40

https://forum.developer.betfair.com/for ... -08-40-bst

[Naffman]

BF outage at 16:40 local time

planned maintenance, although was supposed to start at 7:40

https://forum.developer.betfair.com/for ... -08-40-bst

Amazing how poor they are at communicating this

[gazuty]

BF outage at 16:40 local time

planned maintenance, although was supposed to start at 7:40

https://forum.developer.betfair.com/for ... -08-40-bst

Amazing how poor they are at communicating this

To be fair to them - I got an sms this morning about the outage - so a decent heads up.

[Naffman]

planned maintenance, although was supposed to start at 7:40

https://forum.developer.betfair.com/for ... -08-40-bst

Amazing how poor they are at communicating this

To be fair to them - I got an sms this morning about the outage - so a decent heads up.

I've noticed BF Aus care about their customers (not that much though that they still charge PC) a lot more than the UK side who believe we all rise at 10am

[Emmson]

In the rules of every Aus market we see the declaration "This is a cross matching market" but I never see that at all in Blightys nags markets.

[Anbell]

Moruya R6 winner traded $5 at 1000 IP.

[rik]

Moruya R6 winner traded $5 at 1000 IP.

think with backing 1000 most of the time you get matched on all of them but 1 so for 11 runners its basically the same odds as laying 1.01.
Not made statistical analysis but going by amounts queued at 1.01 compared to usually nothing at 1000 youd think generally laying 1.01 is better value if you could get first in queue.
if its a competitive finish with multiple runners i think putting back bets at much higher odds than currently traded can work as a strategy as cross matching can get you matched easily if there is betting on at least 2 others.

[gazuty]

Moruya R6 winner traded $5 at 1000 IP.

think with backing 1000 most of the time you get matched on all of them but 1 so for 11 runners its basically the same odds as laying 1.01.
Not made statistical analysis but going by amounts queued at 1.01 compared to usually nothing at 1000 youd think generally laying 1.01 is better value if you could get first in queue.
if its a competitive finish with multiple runners i think putting back bets at much higher odds than currently traded can work as a strategy as cross matching can get you matched easily if there is betting on at least 2 others.

I’ve done the experiment. Went for a reasonable period - maybe four months or so - layed every runner in every Australian race at 1.01. It didn’t turn out positive - maybe I didn’t go for long enough, sometimes I was first in the queue, sometimes I wasn’t, some days I got three 1.01 turnovers (maybe I should have martingaled it ) many days I didn’t get any.

I did find other numbers below 2 that work, but since I’ve paid my learning fee to the market I’ll keep that for me.

[Anbell]

Moruya R6 winner traded $5 at 1000 IP.

think with backing 1000 most of the time you get matched on all of them but 1 so for 11 runners its basically the same odds as laying 1.01.
Not made statistical analysis but going by amounts queued at 1.01 compared to usually nothing at 1000 youd think generally laying 1.01 is better value if you could get first in queue.
if its a competitive finish with multiple runners i think putting back bets at much higher odds than currently traded can work as a strategy as cross matching can get you matched easily if there is betting on at least 2 others.

Interesting points.

I never think about cross-matching. I may need to force it into my brain somehow..

[gazuty]

I don’t think cross matching operates in play on Australian racing.

[rik]

Moruya R6 winner traded $5 at 1000 IP.

think with backing 1000 most of the time you get matched on all of them but 1 so for 11 runners its basically the same odds as laying 1.01.
Not made statistical analysis but going by amounts queued at 1.01 compared to usually nothing at 1000 youd think generally laying 1.01 is better value if you could get first in queue.
if its a competitive finish with multiple runners i think putting back bets at much higher odds than currently traded can work as a strategy as cross matching can get you matched easily if there is betting on at least 2 others.

Interesting points.

I never think about cross-matching. I may need to force it into my brain somehow..

didnt watch the Moruya race, was it just beaten for a moment in the home stretch or came from well behind?

[sionascaig]

Moruya R6 winner traded $5 at 1000 IP.

think with backing 1000 most of the time you get matched on all of them but 1 so for 11 runners its basically the same odds as laying 1.01.
Not made statistical analysis but going by amounts queued at 1.01 compared to usually nothing at 1000 youd think generally laying 1.01 is better value if you could get first in queue.
if its a competitive finish with multiple runners i think putting back bets at much higher odds than currently traded can work as a strategy as cross matching can get you matched easily if there is betting on at least 2 others.

I’ve done the experiment. Went for a reasonable period - maybe four months or so - layed every runner in every Australian race at 1.01. It didn’t turn out positive - maybe I didn’t go for long enough, sometimes I was first in the queue, sometimes I wasn’t, some days I got three 1.01 turnovers (maybe I should have martingaled it ) many days I didn’t get any.

I did find other numbers below 2 that work, but since I’ve paid my learning fee to the market I’ll keep that for me.

This is the in in play min matched price for UK losers going back to 2015 - some notable features in the distribution...