A couple of questions on VPS:
1. Is it illegal for me to use the BetAngel VPS Service, since I am in Denmark, but the servers are in UK?
2. Is it illegal for me as a Danish Betfair customer, to use the BetAngel VPS Service, when I am travelling in Betfair restricted countries, like Indonesia or Vietnam?
3. Do I need to restart the BetAngel client on the VPS every 24 hours for it to be in proper sync, due to NemID, or can I leave it running for a week or more without having to restart?
I tried contacting Betfair and searching the forum, but I am still uncertain. Any help would be much appreciated.
VPS from Denmark
It's not illegal for you to use a VPS, all you are doing is renting space on a server in a datacentre in the UK. So where ever you are in the world, you are remotely controlling that server. You are doing nothing other than controlling the server from the country you are in.
Not sure about requirements for NemID so can't specifically answer that question. But you can get the server to reboot automatically if required.
Betfair have a clause in their terms which ask you not to connect via a proxy, but that's more a catch all on people trying to hide their identity. If you have an authorised Betfair account you should have no problems. We have run our service for 16 years now and not seen any problems.
Not sure about requirements for NemID so can't specifically answer that question. But you can get the server to reboot automatically if required.
Betfair have a clause in their terms which ask you not to connect via a proxy, but that's more a catch all on people trying to hide their identity. If you have an authorised Betfair account you should have no problems. We have run our service for 16 years now and not seen any problems.
Many thanks Euler - that was quick 
I think I still have to login using NemID after rebooting the server, but thats fine.
Is there then a way to check if markets are out of sync / not updating correctly between Betfair and BetAngel?
I saw people on the forum that say they have the same BetAngel client session running for weeks, before having to restart the BetAngel client on the VPS to get proper "sync" with Betfair. However I do not understand how they know that their BetAngel client is not updating markets properly / not in "sync"
I think I still have to login using NemID after rebooting the server, but thats fine.
Is there then a way to check if markets are out of sync / not updating correctly between Betfair and BetAngel?
I saw people on the forum that say they have the same BetAngel client session running for weeks, before having to restart the BetAngel client on the VPS to get proper "sync" with Betfair. However I do not understand how they know that their BetAngel client is not updating markets properly / not in "sync"
In this thread Dallas mentions that he has to restart his VPS every few weeks:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21449&p=227129&hilit=VPS#p227129
And looking through other "VPS threads" I can see that other people also restart their VPS every week like you.
But I do not see how they know that it is necessary to restart the VPS server or the BetAngel Client.
I would like to run fully automated bots 24/7 for 2-3 days at a time, without checking the VPS Server. But if it is necessary to check the performance of the VPS Server/BetAngel client daily, I would like to know what the best approach for that is.
Is there a way to see that I need to restart either the VPS server or BetAngel client? Are you perhaps pinging the Betfair servers from the VPS Server on a daily basis to ensure that there is no performance/data loss? Or do you know there is a performance issue and you need to restart, just by looking at the One-click screen/Ladder and maybe comparing it with the Betfair site prices?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21449&p=227129&hilit=VPS#p227129
And looking through other "VPS threads" I can see that other people also restart their VPS every week like you.
But I do not see how they know that it is necessary to restart the VPS server or the BetAngel Client.
I would like to run fully automated bots 24/7 for 2-3 days at a time, without checking the VPS Server. But if it is necessary to check the performance of the VPS Server/BetAngel client daily, I would like to know what the best approach for that is.
Is there a way to see that I need to restart either the VPS server or BetAngel client? Are you perhaps pinging the Betfair servers from the VPS Server on a daily basis to ensure that there is no performance/data loss? Or do you know there is a performance issue and you need to restart, just by looking at the One-click screen/Ladder and maybe comparing it with the Betfair site prices?
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It's not strictly necessary but it's just one of those things that's advisable if it's easy and right in front of you. Just in case something is leaking memeory, or there's an update to Windows. Rebooting your server occassionally is also good for security too as your IP address gets changed (if you want) and should throw off anyone making a persistent attack.
The only other thing you need to be concerned about is clock drift. Servers aren't very good at keeping the clock time right generally. But that can be reset in your Task Scheduler so it's no big deal.
If you did want to keep an eye on your vps when you're away then you can access it from a mobile device.
Ah okay, now it makes sense for me - thank you ShaunWhite!
Good stuff to know about clock time as well, really appreciate it.
Yea, access with mobile is 100% my plan with VPS. It is pretty much a necessity for me due to a lot of travel in SE Asia.
I made the mistake of buying a laptop earlier this year and ran my bots from it when I was abroad with a VPN. The latency and disconnects in big cities like Jakarta were so disappointing, compared to my PC in Denmark, that I completely stopped trading until I came back to Denmark.
I should have just gotten VPS instead
Good stuff to know about clock time as well, really appreciate it.
Yea, access with mobile is 100% my plan with VPS. It is pretty much a necessity for me due to a lot of travel in SE Asia.
I made the mistake of buying a laptop earlier this year and ran my bots from it when I was abroad with a VPN. The latency and disconnects in big cities like Jakarta were so disappointing, compared to my PC in Denmark, that I completely stopped trading until I came back to Denmark.
I should have just gotten VPS instead
I recently got onto VPS.
I've got 4 instances of BA running and nothing else, pre-off on horses only, with restrict refresh set to 90secs before start. Logs are typically under 100 lines.
But I'm finding the VPS struggles, with CPU % up at 100% and BA hanging with "(Not Responding)" in the title bar of the app, and missing bet placement becuase it is hanging during the bet placement window.
I've been rebooting every few days, and reduced streaming back to 250 ms.
Is something amiss or am I asking too much of the machine?
I've got 4 instances of BA running and nothing else, pre-off on horses only, with restrict refresh set to 90secs before start. Logs are typically under 100 lines.
But I'm finding the VPS struggles, with CPU % up at 100% and BA hanging with "(Not Responding)" in the title bar of the app, and missing bet placement becuase it is hanging during the bet placement window.
I've been rebooting every few days, and reduced streaming back to 250 ms.
Is something amiss or am I asking too much of the machine?