Take SP seems to be Fu***ed Up! (Pre Off Horseracing)

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lotora
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You're placing bets after the jump and after the greening
Ref: 209672678580
Ref: 209672683761
There is one instance of Green Up in-play (stake 78.59, odds 2.32). at 10.03.18


This amount would be much, much lower if take SP was working
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gazuty
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lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:56 am
You're placing bets after the jump and after the greening
Ref: 209672678580
Ref: 209672683761
There is one instance of Green Up in-play (stake 78.59, odds 2.32). at 10.03.18


This amount would be much, much lower if take SP was working
You placed four bets pre-off, three lays and one back.

But you only modified three of those to Take SP, two of the lays and the back. Is that what you intended to do?

You then placed three bets in play.
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lotora
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You placed four bets pre-off, three lays and one back.

But you only modified three of those to Take SP, two of the lays and the back. Is that what you intended to do
Actually, I placed only one bet Pre-Off at 10:03:01: Odds 2.42 stake 34.72
3 bets at 10:03:14 (take SP) when the market was suspended (2 Lay bets: 2.42 stake 35.21, 2.42 stake 35.21. 1 Back bet: 2.42 stake 29.8), and 1 lay bet (greening in-play 10:03:18 odds 2,32 stake 78.59)

I intended to back only one time (take SP), and then green up the rest.
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Anbell
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gazuty wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:00 am
lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:56 am
You're placing bets after the jump and after the greening
Ref: 209672678580
Ref: 209672683761
There is one instance of Green Up in-play (stake 78.59, odds 2.32). at 10.03.18


This amount would be much, much lower if take SP was working
You placed four bets pre-off, three lays and one back.

But you only modified three of those to Take SP, two of the lays and the back. Is that what you intended to do?

You then placed three bets in play.
Can you check your account statement and see whether any/all of these were SP
209672659227
209672659228
209672659367
Anbell
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Anbell wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:12 am
gazuty wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:00 am
lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 7:56 am


There is one instance of Green Up in-play (stake 78.59, odds 2.32). at 10.03.18


This amount would be much, much lower if take SP was working
You placed four bets pre-off, three lays and one back.

But you only modified three of those to Take SP, two of the lays and the back. Is that what you intended to do?

You then placed three bets in play.
Can you check your account statement and see whether any/all of these were SP
209672659227
209672659228
209672659367
Maybe 209672659227 was matched before the jump
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lotora
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Can you check your account statement and see whether any/all of these were SP
209672659227
209672659228
209672659367
Yes these were all SP
Anbell
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lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:21 am
Can you check your account statement and see whether any/all of these were SP
209672659227
209672659228
209672659367
Yes these were all SP
So Take SP worked?

They were the only ones you modified to Take SP
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lotora
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So Take SP worked?

They were the only ones you modified to Take SP
No!, because I had One single bet Only. Laid at odds 2.42, stake 34.72, at 10:03:01.
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lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:37 am
So Take SP worked?

They were the only ones you modified to Take SP
No!, because I had One single bet Only. Laid at odds 2.42, stake 34.72, at 10:03:01.
You laid
34.72 pre-off
37.88 sp
40.32 sp

approx 112

and you backed 29.8 sp

112-30=82

and you greened up for 78.6

Seems about right to me
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lotora
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Not to me, but thank you very much anyway.
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lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 8:51 am
Not to me, but thank you very much anyway.
Which bit?

You had 34.72 Lay pre-off

and your SP bets were a net of
Lay 37.88+40.32 = 78.2
Back 30

For a net SP Lay of 48.2

SO your net position going into greening was
Pre-off Lay 34.72
SP Net Lay 48.2
=82.92

And you greened up for 78.59

You didnt have "One single bet Only. Laid at odds 2.42, stake 34.72, at 10:03:01." You also laid it SP for more than you backed it by a factor of about 2.6
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lotora
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Yes I laid 34.72 pre-off. The whole point with "take SP" should be to back what's unmatched, here a Net Stake of 34.72.

What's left would then be Greened UP In-play.

If working correctly, this would be a very tiny amount. It makes no sense whatsoever to have to Green Up an amount more than twice of what I originally laid pre-off. On average the odds when "take SP" is namely far better than when in-play.
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lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:23 am
Yes I laid 34.72 pre-off. The whole point with "take SP" should be to back what's unmatched, here a Net Stake of 34.72.

What's left would then be Greened UP In-play.

If working correctly, this would be a very tiny amount. It makes no sense whatsoever to have to Green Up an amount more than twice of what I originally laid pre-off. On average the odds when "take SP" is namely far better than when in-play.
Take SP takes what is unmatched of a bet @ the sp. If that is an unmatched lay bet it lays to the SP at the unmatched liability. An unmatched back takes the amount of the unmatched back and matches that at the SP.
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lotora wrote:
Sat Aug 29, 2020 9:23 am
Yes I laid 34.72 pre-off. The whole point with "take SP" should be to back what's unmatched, here a Net Stake of 34.72.

What's left would then be Greened UP In-play.

If working correctly, this would be a very tiny amount. It makes no sense whatsoever to have to Green Up an amount more than twice of what I originally laid pre-off. On average the odds when "take SP" is namely far better than when in-play.
You seem to be ignoring/forgetting this part:
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and your SP bets were a net of
Lay 37.88+40.32 = 78.2
Back 30

For a net SP Lay of 48.2
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lotora
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Take SP takes what is unmatched of a bet @ the sp. If that is an unmatched lay bet it lays to the SP at the unmatched liability. An unmatched back takes the amount of the unmatched back and matches that at the SP.
Totally correct!
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