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goat68
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Am I putting too much emphasis on the historical price and volume?
Does this pattern mean anything at 15mins
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smallplayer wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:42 pm
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Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:25 pm
These lower volume races are a real loss consumer, all it takes is some geser to come along and put 5k on and it moves the price 15 ticks into a loss like just happened for me...
Tbf, with second fav drifting madly and only two outsiders slowly coming in, it wasn't a time to be backing when it crossed 2. You could see the pressure building for it to come back sharply..also 5k sitting at 1.96 which was instantly taken. Only my views mind. I did not trade that race cause i'm quit for day, but if I had it would have been a back at top of range at 2.10. I'm learning like you Goat, but did you notice all these things?
I actually layed at 2.04, got out for a loss at 1.89
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:43 pm
Am I putting too much emphasis on the historical price and volume?
Does this pattern mean anything at 15mins
these are on the a/w in the evening on a dull friday nigh, you cant expect much really can you? They will be quite jumpy (even dundalk which as better grade racing this evening, than newcastle). Anything 15 minutes out on these cards is going to be no use at all. not worth looking until £100000 or so as been matched.
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:51 pm
smallplayer wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:42 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:25 pm
These lower volume races are a real loss consumer, all it takes is some geser to come along and put 5k on and it moves the price 15 ticks into a loss like just happened for me...
Tbf, with second fav drifting madly and only two outsiders slowly coming in, it wasn't a time to be backing when it crossed 2. You could see the pressure building for it to come back sharply..also 5k sitting at 1.96 which was instantly taken. Only my views mind. I did not trade that race cause i'm quit for day, but if I had it would have been a back at top of range at 2.10. I'm learning like you Goat, but did you notice all these things?
I actually layed at 2.04, got out for a loss at 1.89
Sorry, mistype. I meant laying..you can tell that from rest of post anyway :D
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to75ne wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:53 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:43 pm
Am I putting too much emphasis on the historical price and volume?
Does this pattern mean anything at 15mins
these are on the a/w in the evening on a dull friday nigh, you cant expect much really can you? They will be quite jumpy (even dundalk which as better grade racing this evening, than newcastle). Anything 15 minutes out on these cards is going to be no use at all. not worth looking until £100000 or so as been matched.
:shock: :oops:
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jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm
to75ne wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:53 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:43 pm
Am I putting too much emphasis on the historical price and volume?
Does this pattern mean anything at 15mins
these are on the a/w in the evening on a dull friday nigh, you cant expect much really can you? They will be quite jumpy (even dundalk which as better grade racing this evening, than newcastle). Anything 15 minutes out on these cards is going to be no use at all. not worth looking until £100000 or so as been matched.
:shock: :oops:
Yeah that one!!
I got angry and backed fav at 2.48 £100...
Out at 2.18
At least I ended the day in profit!
But doesn't count really....
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Oh, and I have decided to not trade Saturday's as there's just too much going on for me to lose money on...! It seems my worst day of the week consistently.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm
to75ne wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:53 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:43 pm
Am I putting too much emphasis on the historical price and volume?
Does this pattern mean anything at 15mins
these are on the a/w in the evening on a dull friday nigh, you cant expect much really can you? They will be quite jumpy (even dundalk which as better grade racing this evening, than newcastle). Anything 15 minutes out on these cards is going to be no use at all. not worth looking until £100000 or so as been matched.
:shock: :oops:
Hey James, looking at the timestamp there you were in there even before me, that's impressive man! :-)
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:30 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm
to75ne wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:53 pm


these are on the a/w in the evening on a dull friday nigh, you cant expect much really can you? They will be quite jumpy (even dundalk which as better grade racing this evening, than newcastle). Anything 15 minutes out on these cards is going to be no use at all. not worth looking until £100000 or so as been matched.
:shock: :oops:
Hey James, looking at the timestamp there you were in there even before me, that's impressive man! :-)
I wouldn't say its impressive & I certainly wouldn't recommend it but my post was sarcasm, aiming a joke at myself. I know how dangerous doing that can be but sometimes its easy to get in and out, especially with 30 quids. The danger is if someone drops a few hundred quid in on the backside but i also know that a few hundred quid 17 mins out isn't likely to trigger too many bots, its hardly a place where anyone is looking to get involved manually or automatically.
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What happens when too many bots are triggered?
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jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:44 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:30 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 pm


:shock: :oops:
Hey James, looking at the timestamp there you were in there even before me, that's impressive man! :-)
I wouldn't say its impressive & I certainly wouldn't recommend it but my post was sarcasm, aiming a joke at myself. I know how dangerous doing that can be but sometimes its easy to get in and out, especially with 30 quids. The danger is if someone drops a few hundred quid in on the backside but i also know that a few hundred quid 17 mins out isn't likely to trigger too many bots, its hardly a place where anyone is looking to get involved manually or automatically.
Yeah, knew it was, I was being sarcastic too!
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smallplayer wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:52 pm
What happens when too many bots are triggered?
The Terminator comes :-)
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smallplayer wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:52 pm
What happens when too many bots are triggered?
No idea but I would imagine that people have bots that track volume so what i meant by my comment is that very little activity is probably going to attract very little reaction.
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:57 pm
smallplayer wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:52 pm
What happens when too many bots are triggered?
The Terminator comes :-)
Met him a few times in the markets :D
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jamesg46 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:57 pm
smallplayer wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:52 pm
What happens when too many bots are triggered?
No idea but I would imagine that people have bots that track volume so what i meant by my comment is that very little activity is probably going to attract very little reaction.
Ah, ok..volume bots producing volatility..which you don't want at that point..get you now
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