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Archery1969
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BertieBert wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:35 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:20 pm
But it can be done and many on here and elsewhere are doing so otherwise they would be no matching going on. I am small per trade / per race but like SB said there are over 800+ UK races every week and also Australian, New Zealand and USA dog racing too. If you can make £2 per race profit consistently then its a nice little earner for a single market strategy to add to ones portfolio. I dont know but i assume that some traders have many different market stratigies and when combined make them £500,000+ per year and if its all fully automated then they are far better than me. But there is capacity for others to make some pennies along the way. :)

Below is a race coming up at tonight at 9:28pm and fits are selection criteria:

So, i will be looking at Trap 1 to see when/if money starts coming in and trade accordingly. Its current back price is 6 and current lay price is 14.5. But remember we will not be backing it at 6. :)
please stop assuming I've not understood the execution idea. I've said I understand that you do not agress.

i picked the central park race because it was the next graded race when i was posting.

but your main statement that there is capacity for others to make the trade is just not realistic. If you think there is room for you to make £2 a race then why not double your stake? it doesn't matter if you are trading in £1 lots if you double your stake or the 30 other people that are automating based on this thread add another 30x £1 its the the same effect.

just look at the volume of the chosen selection t1 21.28 had a volume of what ~ 15k traded, and the vast vast majority of that in the last minute, there was a less than 1k traded in the time window you described and you've got a lot of smart market makers, and now a lot of followers for a public strategy, nobody is going to be making 500k. and the more people that follow it the less everyone of them is going to get proportionally, if anything at all, even when there are two traders with the same strategy, they don't just share the pie 50-50 from before, they make it smaller by being in competition.
I really dont understand where you are coming from. Are you saying there is no money to be made trading dogs and we should all give up or something ?

That race market had over £35,000 matched. Not everyone is trading Trap 1 being my selection, other people have different methods/edges for trading each race.

I posted that race selection 40 mins before the scheduled start. And it was matched from 8.4 down to 3.05 or there abouts. Are you saying nobody made a profit and it was all self matching for zero profit or are you saying that dog never shortend in price ?

Maybe SB or MF can help me understand where your coming from because I havent got a clue!
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I think he simply pointing out the more you give away your edge the less it'll become as there isn't an infinite pot to plunder.
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spreadbetting wrote:
Sun Jan 03, 2021 11:08 pm
I think he simply pointing out the more you give away your edge the less it'll become as there isn't an infinite pot to plunder.
Fair enough.

But as you know SB there is more than one way to skin a cat when trading. That dog obviously shortened allot which means something else had to drift.
:)

The new method has been working well for me, although the number of qualifying races has dropped. But if things change then i just find a different angle. ;)
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Yep, much easier to skin that cat if you know what he's doing , Archery. Nothing lasts forever so it's always good to be on your toes and the amount of people doing something similar to the amount of people playing the market on Betfair will be negligable. I remember years ago giving someone a fully formed bot and didn't even get a thank you, the only time they contacted me was when Betfair had changed the site structure a year or so later so it no longer worked.

Just ran that code and doubt anyone will make money from the bare results

14:23 Monmore Mon 4 January 2021, 5. Some Lucky Lady, class A8, time difference 0.19
14:32 Romford Mon 4 January 2021, 5. Paisons Pearl, class A4, time difference 0.12
15:11 Romford Mon 4 January 2021, 4. Killians Glory, class A5, time difference 0.19
15:38 Monmore Mon 4 January 2021, 3. Teds Badger, class A8, time difference 0.23
15:44 Sheffield Mon 4 January 2021, 3. Josies Double, class A7, time difference 0.19
16:28 Romford Mon 4 January 2021, 5. Sneezys Hobby, class A9, time difference 0.14
16:43 Sheffield Mon 4 January 2021, 6. Unknown Flash, class A8, time difference 0.2
16:58 Monmore Mon 4 January 2021, 1. Job Sorted, class A8, time difference 0.4
17:03 Sheffield Mon 4 January 2021, 5. Geelo Tootsie, class A8, time difference 0.21
17:08 Romford Mon 4 January 2021, 2. Alwaysandforever, class A6, time difference 0.12
17:54 Monmore Mon 4 January 2021, 6. Almighty Roddick, class A8, time difference 0.33
18:28 Doncaster Mon 4 January 2021, 3. Luttons Kyle, class A4, time difference 0.2
18:33 Harlow Mon 4 January 2021, 5. Moaning Merrick, class A7, time difference 0.11
18:36 Yarmouth Mon 4 January 2021, 6. Ballyfore Luck, class A4, time difference 0.36
18:41 Nottingham Mon 4 January 2021, 3. Right Direction, class A2, time difference 0.14
19:07 Harlow Mon 4 January 2021, 4. Treaty Jet, class A5, time difference 0.11
19:24 Harlow Mon 4 January 2021, 3. Moors Barry, class A5, time difference 0.2
19:51 Nottingham Mon 4 January 2021, 1. Catriona, class A8, time difference 1.09
20:06 Nottingham Mon 4 January 2021, 1. Avant Garde, class A4, time difference 0.17
20:46 Yarmouth Mon 4 January 2021, 2. Fahrenheit Balor, class A3, time difference 0.14
21:01 Yarmouth Mon 4 January 2021, 4. Shroughmore Lad, class A4, time difference 0.22
21:02 Harlow Mon 4 January 2021, 6. Dapper Act, class A7, time difference 0.16
21:11 Nottingham Mon 4 January 2021, 5. Nidderdaleherald, class A5, time difference 0.6
21:16 Yarmouth Mon 4 January 2021, 4. Mobeedy, class A6, time difference 0.1
21:26 Nottingham Mon 4 January 2021, 4. Dark Ocean, class A1, time difference 0.13
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Was just checking the results and couldn't figure out why this runner didn't match up :)

15:38 Monmore Mon 4 January 2021, 3. Teds Old Centaur employee, class A8, time difference 0.23

Even went on to win at 9/4f
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nothing to do with greyhounds, my brother has seen my skills creating excel sheets, he wants one for his Rock 'n' Roll weekly podcast that he has started during the lockdown.


So 26 shows recorded here are his top 20 artists by number of tracks played.

The shows can be found on Mixcloud every Saturday at 4.00 p.m.

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MemphisFlash wrote:
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I note that Kinsley 12.28 is STILL suspended over 30 mins after 1 and 4 traps split the result.

Does it really take this long to calculate a split result? I want my pennies back : - )

/Sigh

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I have BOTH traps :D
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The Silk Run wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:57 pm
I have BOTH traps :D
Did you see my attachment? Me too. 👍

http://greyhound-data.com/ suggested that 1 and 4 were the ones to back, as well as 3 being the obvious lay - see attachment

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Just noticed the matched LAY as well, sweet touch. Consistent as ever ...

Happy New Year
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if no 3 had come in you would have been buggered.
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:21 pm
if no 3 had come in you would have been buggered.
+1 :o
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 3:21 pm
if no 3 had come in you would have been buggered.
First rule of aftertiming is you don't mention aftertiming, second rule is don't post up losers, Memphis.
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