Coronavirus - A pale horse,4 men and ....beer

[StellaBot]

Meet me ouside London Hospital
I will pay you money to work there?

Up for it?

Dont know whats worst for some to catch

Aids or Corona

[SweetLyrics]

OK, let's get this straight.

I live in Glasgow.

You want me to spend a day travelling down to London at my own expense (breaking the law which forbids non-essential travel from Scotland to England) to prove a point? Nah, I'll pass, if it's all the same! :

Meet me ouside London Hospital
I will pay you money to work there?

Up for it?

[StellaBot]

Bailed out
Caught out

As Ann D said "wekest link"

BYE

[SweetLyrics]

OK, let's use an analogy.

Would I spend a day working on the flu ward if I hadn't had a flu vaccination? Nope!

Do I think we should have a lockdown each winter to prevent people dying from the flu (as happens every year)?

Nope, that would be total overkill.

There is no contradiction.

Bailed out
Caught out

As Ann D said "wekest link"

BYE

[StellaBot]

Is there a vac for aids?

[StellaBot]

[SweetLyrics]

I don't think so, but I hardly see the relevance!

Is there a vac for aids?

[StellaBot]

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[Derek27]

I think that's a good point.

The government have said from the start that they are listening to the experts. I don't doubt that's the case. But are they inviting the right experts into the conversation, i.e. do they listen to economists as well as epidemiologists to get a balanced view of the short- and long- term effects of their policies? And are they asking the right questions? Are they asking merely 'What can do to minimise the number of people getting Covid?', or are they asking 'What can we do that will minimise the years of life lost?'.

I'm sceptical of the government's decisions (and very critical of a lot of their decision making, which can be inconsistent and sometimes comes across as being made on the basis of someone's gut feeling). However, I don't claim to know what the answer is (and I think many experts would privately admit that they don't, either).

Many people are in one camp or the other without balancing health and the effect on the economy.

I guess they got some good brains advising them. The problem is BJ goes along with them if it suits him but ignores them if he doesn't like what he hears, like the national Christmas virus spreading event.

[alexmr2]

Meet me ouside London Hospital
I will pay you money to work there?

This is one of the standard responses to anti-lockdown or rule breakers, I do think it's a pointless exercise unless you have some context to compare it to e.g. 10 years experience in ICUs through multiple flu seasons. In reality people have been dying in hospitals for hundreds of years and 1600 deaths per day is the normal UK death figure any other year.

All I have saw is the BBC broadcast the 1% of the 1% critical care wards with the patients in the worst conditions struggling to breathe, giving a warped perspective of reality. I have also saw some people walk round hospitals videoing, and I'm not saying there's no patients but there's certainly not ambulances queued up or beds piled up in corridors as you would expect from a true pandemic