Trading What I see !?

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goat68
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I've created a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market in the past, whereas I need one that trades on the market of the future, and there is seemingly no way of knowing what that is...
So how do you make a profit :?: :?: :?:
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goat68
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I'm coming to the conclusion there are no patterns, or rather there is a pattern, the pattern is "that there are no patterns"
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:31 pm
I've created a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market in the past, whereas I need one that trades on the market of the future, and there is seemingly no way of knowing what that is...
So how do you make a profit :?: :?: :?:
Why don't you try to create a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market now. :)
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Trader724 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:54 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:31 pm
I've created a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market in the past, whereas I need one that trades on the market of the future, and there is seemingly no way of knowing what that is...
So how do you make a profit :?: :?: :?:
Why don't you try to create a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market now. :)
That is what I am trying to do... using a model of the behavior now is based on how I saw the behavior over the last weeks
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:58 pm
Trader724 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:54 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:31 pm
I've created a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market in the past, whereas I need one that trades on the market of the future, and there is seemingly no way of knowing what that is...
So how do you make a profit :?: :?: :?:
Why don't you try to create a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market now. :)
That is what I am trying to do... using a model of the behavior now is based on how I saw the behavior over the last weeks
Didn’t you know the market has ADHD, or when i was a kid it was called “naughty little bastard”
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:15 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:58 pm
Trader724 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:54 pm


Why don't you try to create a bot that trades on the behaviour of the market now. :)
That is what I am trying to do... using a model of the behavior now is based on how I saw the behavior over the last weeks
Didn’t you know the market has ADHD, or when i was a kid it was called “naughty little bastard”
Not half!
bot is -£10 down today with no stop loss... 90% loss rate...
and I forgot to put my stake back down to £2 (currently £4)
Will have some good data to analyze later though, will burn the midnight oil again!
First change £2 stakes for tomorrow!
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:48 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:15 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:58 pm


That is what I am trying to do... using a model of the behavior now is based on how I saw the behavior over the last weeks
Didn’t you know the market has ADHD, or when i was a kid it was called “naughty little bastard”
Not half!
bot is -£10 down today with no stop loss... 90% loss rate...
and I forgot to put my stake back down to £2 (currently £4)
Will have some good data to analyze later though, will burn the midnight oil again!
First change £2 stakes for tomorrow!
Why don’t you use £2 stakes in PM. Just a thought
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:32 pm
I'm coming to the conclusion there are no patterns, or rather there is a pattern, the pattern is "that there are no patterns"
Without recording Trades/Markets how are you going to be able to look for patterns?, you can rewind a recording (several times) to look for why the market moved (volume, interaction of runners, spikes, crossover points,type of race,liquidity,charts,BF chart etc)
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this is just my opinion but could Servents be more useful than automation in pre-play?
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:48 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 4:15 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:58 pm


That is what I am trying to do... using a model of the behavior now is based on how I saw the behavior over the last weeks
Didn’t you know the market has ADHD, or when i was a kid it was called “naughty little bastard”
Not half!
bot is -£10 down today with no stop loss... 90% loss rate...
and I forgot to put my stake back down to £2 (currently £4)
Will have some good data to analyze later though, will burn the midnight oil again!
First change £2 stakes for tomorrow!
Surely trading without a stop loss would hugely increase variance? I'd have thought you'd need a lot of markets to determine if it's actually profitable.
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:11 am
Anbell wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:43 am
goat68 wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:40 pm
If I could dump a Stored Value to a file maybe? v1.56 allows loading Stored Values, but i'd like to also go the other way....?
You can do this.
Ah can you? I'll have to download 1.56 and try. I only saw loading SVs in the release notes.
Thanks
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Anbell wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:25 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:11 am
Anbell wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:43 am


You can do this.
Ah can you? I'll have to download 1.56 and try. I only saw loading SVs in the release notes.
Thanks
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=20724&p=215231
Ah, by using Excel integration? you can't via native Guardian advanced automation?
I don't have Excel at the moment.
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Anbell wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:25 pm
goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:11 am
Anbell wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 1:43 am


You can do this.
Ah can you? I'll have to download 1.56 and try. I only saw loading SVs in the release notes.
Thanks
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=20724&p=215231
Just downloaded 1.56, seems there is a new "Export All Stored Values" rule type, so excellent :-)
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goat68 wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:37 pm
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post the automation file i could have an opinion why its not working?
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