Trading What I see !?

[speedyhamster]

I only referred to better tools so that you can work efficiently. You can try to lift something up manually or use a pulley. There's a big difference. On what foundation do you build your house and all the other details are part of another discussion.

Isn't that why I am using BetAngel?!

BA's role is to execute, not to develop. Each tool has its purpose, do not confuse them.

BetAngel advanced charts can be used for finding market behaviors that repeat and excel or guardian can collect data to be able to find edges
a pulley is a great tool, but try using one on quicksand

[speedyhamster]

My point is if the data and parameters used for creating the bot is not correct and does not have a edge, the expert maker of your bot will not be able to make the bot make money

[Trader724]

Isn't that why I am using BetAngel?!

BA's role is to execute, not to develop. Each tool has its purpose, do not confuse them.

BetAngel advanced charts can be used for finding market behaviors that repeat and excel or guardian can collect data to be able to find edges
a pulley is a great tool, but try using one on quicksand

If you're trying to build something on quicksand, you're stupid.

[Trader724]

My point is if the data and parameters used for creating the bot is not correct and does not have a edge, the expert maker of your bot will not be able to make the bot make money

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

[speedyhamster]

My point is if the data and parameters used for creating the bot is not correct and does not have a edge, the expert maker of your bot will not be able to make the bot make money

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

[Trader724]

BetAngel advanced charts can be used for finding market behaviors that repeat and excel or guardian can collect data to be able to find edges

What you can do with BA in data analysis cannot be compared to a software specially created for this purpose.

[speedyhamster]

BetAngel advanced charts can be used for finding market behaviors that repeat and excel or guardian can collect data to be able to find edges

What you can do with BA in data analysis cannot be compared to a software specially created for this purpose.

So you have all this data but now you have to have the correct mindset to be able to correctly interpret the data

[ShaunWhite]

My point is if the data and parameters used for creating the bot is not correct and does not have a edge, the expert maker of your bot will not be able to make the bot make money

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

Tbh the only sensible way is just to put your big boy pants on and learn how to do it yourself. If you get something done for you you'll forever be asking for mods and in 2 years time your developer will go awol and you're left with something that doesn't do what you want and no way to deal with it. 2yrs time and money down the pan.

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...so just one hour a day and inside two months you'll be motoring. No paying peopple and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if it takes you 100hrs at 1hr a day that's you all up to speed by the middle of May, and you've got a new skill for your CV too in case trading goes tits up. You can't really just do the fun parts in any job, there's times when you have to do the stuff you don't especially want to do and if that's just 1hr a day then it sounds pretty good as jobs go.

[Trader724]

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

Tbh the only sensible way is just to put your big boy pants on and learn how to do it yourself. If you get something done for you you'll forever be asking for mods and in 2 years time your developer will go awol and you're left with something that doesn't do what you want and no way to deal with it. 2yrs time and money down the pan.

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...so just one hour a day and inside two months you'll be motoring. No paying peopple and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if it takes you 100hrs at 1hr a day that's you all up to speed by the middle of May, and you've got a new skill for your CV too in case trading goes tits up. You can't really just do the fun parts in any job, there's times when you have to do the stuff you don't especially want to do and if that's just 1hr a day then it sounds pretty good as jobs go.

I would call on a little help at the beginning to gain time and increase my chances of becoming profitable while working to always take everything to the next level on my own.

[goat68]

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

Tbh the only sensible way is just to put your big boy pants on and learn how to do it yourself. If you get something done for you you'll forever be asking for mods and in 2 years time your developer will go awol and you're left with something that doesn't do what you want and no way to deal with it. 2yrs time and money down the pan.

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...so just one hour a day and inside two months you'll be motoring. No paying peopple and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if it takes you 100hrs at 1hr a day that's you all up to speed by the middle of May, and you've got a new skill for your CV too in case trading goes tits up. You can't really just do the fun parts in any job, there's times when you have to do the stuff you don't especially want to do and if that's just 1hr a day then it sounds pretty good as jobs go.

Exactly, and if i want to create that sort of software I am perfectly capable with 30+ years as a developer

[speedyhamster]

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

Tbh the only sensible way is just to put your big boy pants on and learn how to do it yourself. If you get something done for you you'll forever be asking for mods and in 2 years time your developer will go awol and you're left with something that doesn't do what you want and no way to deal with it. 2yrs time and money down the pan.

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...so just one hour a day and inside two months you'll be motoring. No paying peopple and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if it takes you 100hrs at 1hr a day that's you all up to speed by the middle of May, and you've got a new skill for your CV too in case trading goes tits up. You can't really just do the fun parts in any job, there's times when you have to do the stuff you don't especially want to do and if that's just 1hr a day then it sounds pretty good as jobs go.

There is a course that teaches you a skill, the teacher not only knows how to do the subject but he knows how to teach the skill you need to learn to master the skilll yourself. He supports members that are struggling and offers advice on how to change the way they think to enable them to master the skill. Follow the course (without taking shortcuts or doing your own thing) that is based on how your mind works, and trains your mind to expect success You need to put the hard work in yourself so it is not done for you, master this and your trading wont go tits up because you will have the skills to be able to trade

[Trader724]

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

Tbh the only sensible way is just to put your big boy pants on and learn how to do it yourself. If you get something done for you you'll forever be asking for mods and in 2 years time your developer will go awol and you're left with something that doesn't do what you want and no way to deal with it. 2yrs time and money down the pan.

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...so just one hour a day and inside two months you'll be motoring. No paying peopple and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if it takes you 100hrs at 1hr a day that's you all up to speed by the middle of May, and you've got a new skill for your CV too in case trading goes tits up. You can't really just do the fun parts in any job, there's times when you have to do the stuff you don't especially want to do and if that's just 1hr a day then it sounds pretty good as jobs go.

Exactly, and if i want to create that sort of software I am perfectly capable with 30+ years as a developer

Then what are you doing here.

[JasBarrow]

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...

I've been keen to get into automation for a long time now and have looked at Udemy but wouldn't know where to begin.

What type of course would you suggest Shaun? VBA or something else?

[MAGTRADEUK]

A question on profitable a/c.

How much down in £ over how long did some keep going until they started to make money steadily, still at the stage where I have days where all goes ok, but then on 1 day a large move up or down against me wipes out the pluses or overall puts me in the red. Feel like I am on an escalator ... its all up then when I turn round back down again .. then up ... then down again.... which is ok in a way as long as you keep a slight bit in front, but to be honest its starting to feel a bit futile.

[jamesg46]

My advice was't about paying someone to create a strategy for him, that would be totally stupid. I meant to get help for making a software able to collect data and then analyze it efficiently using parameters provided by the user so he doesn't have to do it live, because it takes too much time and money.

In that case the parameters provided would need to be correct

Tbh the only sensible way is just to put your big boy pants on and learn how to do it yourself. If you get something done for you you'll forever be asking for mods and in 2 years time your developer will go awol and you're left with something that doesn't do what you want and no way to deal with it. 2yrs time and money down the pan.

How long is it going to take to learn a few basics? At most about 50hrs of serious head down work if you do a structured online course? (eg on Udemy)...so just one hour a day and inside two months you'll be motoring. No paying peopple and the freedom to do pretty much anything you want. Even if it takes you 100hrs at 1hr a day that's you all up to speed by the middle of May, and you've got a new skill for your CV too in case trading goes tits up. You can't really just do the fun parts in any job, there's times when you have to do the stuff you don't especially want to do and if that's just 1hr a day then it sounds pretty good as jobs go.

Nice to see you back in the forum Shaun, it's a much better place when people like yourself are here engaging!