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Flashbuck
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gutuami wrote:Flashbuck before buying a subscription you should have studied all the features and possibilities that this software has. Asking support or members on this forum. Criticizing something is easy, but you should be more diplomatic as Ferru said. There are a lot of traders that use BA for a long time. And the way you said it might be offensive a bit. We all have some personal preferences about the software and post them on the suggestion area of the forum. If supported by other members it gets implemented. In the end BA becomes a tool that suits the majority.

Sorry but you're not making sense. For example, I've just noticed this matter has been raised before. Indeed, there's a link to the thread in question on page 1 of this thread.

Interestingly, in that thread when the matter was raised there was a whole raft of users frantically posting saying it's not needed, it's not needed, over and over, again and again. Most of them doing so are the same users posting in this thread.

What's more, the person who started the previous thread also complained that the responses were too "aggressive", etc. So it's not a question of being inflammatory or undiplomatic, bla bla bla. That's just nonsense as the previous thread mentioned shows.

My feeling is that possibly BAP employees are posting on here pretending to be customers so they can quickly condemn any one or any post that critises BAP. Either that or there's some sort of weird psychological thing going on in which certain users who forked out so much for something are thereby then committed to defending what they've purchased no matter what. You see that with other products people purchase. The more they spend on it the less inclined they are to admit they've been had, so to speak.

Anyway, all that's just speculation and neither here nor there. My point is I'm no longer interested in the original matter because it's clear to me it's something beyond what's possible and so it'll never be implemented. That of course won't be admitted but it's obvious now that it is the case.

Meanwhile, I'm duly expect more abuse, personal attacks, and emotional rants, etc. Ah well.
Iron
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Flashbuck -

Bet Angel offers a free 7 day trial (http://www.betangel.com/trial/).

Did you sign up for it?

Jeff
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gutuami
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yes this matter was raised but did not get any support. As for implementation of this feature "never say never". But as long as there are more important things to implement this will stay at the bottom.
And ..I think all the answers you got were sincere. Lots of people can not just see the point of your suggestion. You should look at it from the positive side of things. In the end nobody pushes you to use this software. It's a matter of choice.
freddy
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Flashbuck wrote:
gutuami wrote:Flashbuck before buying a subscription you should have studied all the features and possibilities that this software has. Asking support or members on this forum. Criticizing something is easy, but you should be more diplomatic as Ferru said. There are a lot of traders that use BA for a long time. And the way you said it might be offensive a bit. We all have some personal preferences about the software and post them on the suggestion area of the forum. If supported by other members it gets implemented. In the end BA becomes a tool that suits the majority.

Sorry but you're not making sense. For example, I've just noticed this matter has been raised before. Indeed, there's a link to the thread in question on page 1 of this thread.

Interestingly, in that thread when the matter was raised there was a whole raft of users frantically posting saying it's not needed, it's not needed, over and over, again and again. Most of them doing so are the same users posting in this thread.

What's more, the person who started the previous thread also complained that the responses were too "aggressive", etc. So it's not a question of being inflammatory or undiplomatic, bla bla bla. That's just nonsense as the previous thread mentioned shows.

My feeling is that possibly BAP employees are posting on here pretending to be customers so they can quickly condemn any one or any post that critises BAP. Either that or there's some sort of weird psychological thing going on in which certain users who forked out so much for something are thereby then committed to defending what they've purchased no matter what. You see that with other products people purchase. The more they spend on it the less inclined they are to admit they've been had, so to speak.

Anyway, all that's just speculation and neither here nor there. My point is I'm no longer interested in the original matter because it's clear to me it's something beyond what's possible and so it'll never be implemented. That of course won't be admitted but it's obvious now that it is the case.

Meanwhile, I'm duly expect more abuse, personal attacks, and emotional rants, etc. Ah well.
Why not just stop moaning on here about it and do what Bet Angel have asked at least ?,

verify your a customer and then send in a request, and then if there are a few other people that want it too (which i have my doubts about) then im sure they will add it as an option.

Just Like they have done with many other things over the years. Thats how it works, do you really think if the BA team thought they were losing money over the lack of this feature they would not put it in ???.

the fact is very very few people think it's important, you obviosly do, so it's best to find a solution that fits your needs better or gets something customised to do what you want.
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LeTiss
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Flashbuck, showing a figure after greening is not as simple as you suggest. With all the facilities BA offers, simply taking 5% off your winnings must be bloody easy. However, we all have differing amounts to pay - larger traders/punters will have larger discounts on their commission, but then there's Premium Charge to consider. Then there's other things like Data Usage charges etc

You still haven't answered my question - why do you need it?

If you've greened up for a £12.50 profit, why are you so angry that BA doesn't show a rough figure of £11.87 instead? It's a piece of piss to work out yourself, and it doesn't enhance your abilities to trade successfully on a regular basis
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Flashbuck, the reason people are so negative to you here is because your posts have been overtly aggressive, you haven't explained why you want the feature and you have been unable to validate that you are actually a user when asked.

You may not be aware, but from time to time posters have arrived on the forum who clearly do so with the intention of causing trouble and that is why we ask for validation. Where people have declined in the past it has always turned out they their intentions were not exactly straightforward!

If you would like to email support to identify yourself I am sure all this confusion can be cleared up. From all the details you have supplied to the forum we can't identify you as a user and I am sure that would help your case. We are not saying you are not a user, but the nature of your posts has obviously caused concern.

We are more than happy to accept feature requests as they help develop the product. We leave them on the forum for people to debate and we DONT intervene, preferring to listen to the debate surrounding features. We also suggest people email support with the suggestion so we can be sure to see it and if we like it anyway we may adopt it regardless of underlying sentiment as long as there is a supporting argument and the dev impact is not adverse.
davy
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Hi Flashbuck

May I ask, are you a trader or a gambler, and do you make a profit?

I remember years ago when I was a gambler I found this feature useful, as I almost always chased my loss’s. If you are a gambler why bother with trading software, you don’t need it.

All this worry gutsing about such a trivial thing upsets only you, no one else. This is a lovely world and a lovely life we live and it’s far to short to get upset about every tiny thing that crosses your path.

If BA doesn’t suit you use something else.

The sun is shining, the birds are singing what a gorgeous day, why not sit in the garden with a beer, chill out and enjoy it, I know I will.

Have a nice life Flashbuck. :lol:
Alpha322
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Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:45 pm

Flashbuck wrote:
Ferru123 wrote:No, what I'm saying is that, when you write an inflammatory post, you can expect to be flamed.

Constructive criticism is one thing; suggesting the software is a crock because of a minor imperfection is just plain stupid!

If a visitor to your house said 'This place is a dump', you'd probably be offended. Your post was not so very different to that...

Jeff


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So what you're saying is that personal abuse is justified when a piece of software is critisised? OK, gotcha!

Yawn. You're doing it again: you're justifying personal abuse because some software has been critisised. The basis for your justification is that what was originally posted must have been inflammatory. Sorry, but that's just a ridiculous circular argument. In addition, you've even chucked in some of you own abuse just for good measure - "stupid". And as for comparing a piece of sofware to your own house, well that sounds a bit desperate to be honest. And so, apart from circular arguments, bizarre analogies and having a dig of your own, if you haven't got anything relevant or substantial to say can I suggest you just give it a rest?
A dump a dump that plants cash into my bank account to buy another dump ha ha ha :D
aligammack
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Not Impressed!

Last night I went to one of the most recommended restaurants in my area with the misses. Meal was very nice but when I asked for the bill the first thing I see is that the tip is not calculated and there is no way to see how much I need to leave as a tip.

Crikey- I hope I haven’t splashed out on a pile of crock restaurant here. I mean that’s the first thing I want to see in any half decent restaurant bill. Other restaurants manage to show it, even the little café round the corner, so why cant this top restaurant calculate it.

It doesn’t bode well for other parts of the restaurant if they can’t handle this simple matter of calculating the tip to leave, something that’s easily accommodated by other restaurants.

I went to a forum where people who regularly go to the restaurant discuss matters and I expressed my concern that my bill didn’t have the tip calculated for me. To my astonishment I was laughed of the park. One poster suggested I should calculate my own tip, well that’s just pathetic. It should be standard. I don’t think the restaurant staff can calculate 10% of my bill so they are hiding behind spurious guff.

My feeling is that possibly the restaurant employees are posting on that forum pretending to be customers so they can quickly condemn any one or any post that critises the restaurant. Either that or there's some sort of weird psychological thing going on in which certain customers who forked out so much for food that they are then committed to defending what they've purchased no matter what. You see that with other products people purchase.

Why would these other customers not see the essential need for someone to calculate their tip?

I know there are more serious things in this world like children being abused, people losing jobs, animals becoming extinct, tsunami’s and earthquakes but I won’t stop moaning until someone will calculate my tip.

Whatever’s next? Using the calculator on my phone!
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Dobbin
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Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:46 pm

Good Grief

I had this feature built in at great expense a while ago

Automatically deducts 5% commission.

Sounds great but my commission rate is now 4%

Has anyone got a fix that will add the 1% back on for me of course it won't be 1% of the 95% any more will it will be a wee bit higher.

Helppppppppppp!!!!!!


Dobbin
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