public information has a degree of permiability and
publically available bots and variations of such are a measuremnt yardstick . may is not a bad idea to pick the most famous of them all and be on the other side of the book.
just a thought

public information has a degree of permiability and
you're spot on, I totally relate to thisdecomez6 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 9:03 amadjusting and adapting bots is well , but its a bit of a let down when you follow a certain train of thought and end up `kaputt`.wearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:40 amfinely honed and able to react/respond to moving markets/data. This makes it easier to focus on how to best fit a strategy to a market and adapt accordingly. some things are probably work in progress too, as other markets evolve. His YT vids are well put together and I find it's important to revisit them every few months as the journey develops.
Pre-market manual trading on UK horses is hard, so a form of semi-automation is likely to be a better way overall. ie: Entry point manually, Exit point automated. Some bots can do it all though.
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It can be adapted for Pre-Market trading by adjusting entry times on a steamer and can be used on other markets like football where you know the direction of the trade will go.
then :
rewind trying to salvage a bot from absolute failureto point where things were promising .
you then hit a point of no return , where you decide to tweak and parsue a different branch of the ¬oak startegy Tree¬
i have posted two bots and the last one looks promising ,and its quite a huddle to adjust.
may be the bot is bloated and convoluted , and there are better ways to do it.
beginners have a level of tolerance that is driven by what else you do outside trading ,and sometimes you could be carrying ideas in your head but is a task to implement them profitably.
please check this one out and tell me what you think .
goat i can relate .
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I wouldn't go live with that, I'd monitor it for a while and spend a few weeks really understanding the significance of each variable.goat68 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:38 pmMy best algo so far just popped out of the slot machine, with a bit of a random reasoning choice of params!
AUS pre-race, last 10days, 750 markets, algo traded 297 markets, 2239 orders:
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Ok chaps, live with this for the next week, where do you think it will end up...? lay your bets please... (use vertical scale, currently at £90)
TOC only applies to thoroughbred horse racing in NSW. There's lots of aus racing besides that. The higher aus commission rates generally don't help much but at least your discount rate still applies to that even though it's no longer relevant for UK racing.alexmr2 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:46 pmThose results look good. BTW do you know about the NSW turnover charge in Aus?
I don't know much about it except that after a certain point (something like £3k of TURNOVER e.g. 6x £500 stakes in 1 day). The commission is so ridiculous that basically people don't run bots on it or can't go over that threshold because it's -EV
Where's your sense of adventure Shaun?!ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:51 pm
I wouldn't go live with that, I'd monitor it for a while and spend a few weeks really understanding the significance of each variable.
so I am aware of NSW TC.alexmr2 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:46 pmThose results look good. BTW do you know about the NSW turnover charge in Aus?
I don't know much about it except that after a certain point (something like £3k of TURNOVER e.g. 6x £500 stakes in 1 day). The commission is so ridiculous that basically people don't run bots on it or can't go over that threshold because it's -EV
‘Garbage in garbage out ‘goat68 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:59 pmHmm, interesting article: https://juicestorm.com/trading-articles ... ir-trader/
anyway, it just eludes to how difficult "algo" trading is...
(there should be enough comments there to provoke some good algo responses/discussions!!)
great joke!Black Ladder wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:34 amWhy do some people make some of the simplest things so complicated.
What's defined as a Thoroughbred race?ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:55 pmTOC only applies to thoroughbred horse racing in NSW. There's lots of aus racing besides that. The higher aus commission rates generally don't help much but at least your discount rate still applies to that even though it's no longer relevant for UK racing.alexmr2 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:46 pmThose results look good. BTW do you know about the NSW turnover charge in Aus?
I don't know much about it except that after a certain point (something like £3k of TURNOVER e.g. 6x £500 stakes in 1 day). The commission is so ridiculous that basically people don't run bots on it or can't go over that threshold because it's -EV