Today's Horse Racing

[xtrader16]

I've made some good profits from laying front runners in large fields, just on this occasion the front running jockey nailed the timing and the others fkd it up. There should be some sort of stewards enq when this happens as it is supposed to be a race and letting a front runner get away whilst actively preventing 10 horses getting involved is quite outrageous. If I was a trainer and I'd dragged my horse all the way there I'ds want an explanation as to why they sat off the leader so much in a 7f race. Horse Racing is all about times/timing. Might not sound like it but I’ve moved on now.

I come from a gambling background and that behaviour is not so easy to leave behind.

If you look at the last 10 races 9/10 of them were in profit. they were all Pre-Off with small stakes, so its going the right way.

[arbitrage16]

I've made some good profits from laying front runners in large fields, just on this occasion the front running jockey nailed the timing and the others fkd it up. There should be some sort of stewards enq when this happens as it is supposed to be a race and letting a front runner get away whilst actively preventing 10 horses getting involved is quite outrageous. If I was a trainer and I'd dragged my horse all the way there I'ds want an explanation as to why they sat off the leader so much in a 7f race. Horse Racing is all about times/timing. Might not sound like it but I’ve moved on now.

LOL! Mate, wake up. This is full of self-pity and blaming other factors. How about taking some responsibility? Been a while since I've read such a pile of shit as this to be honest. As long as you have that attitude, you'll continue to make those mistakes.

[wearthefoxhat]

I've made some good profits from laying front runners in large fields, just on this occasion the front running jockey nailed the timing and the others fkd it up. There should be some sort of stewards enq when this happens as it is supposed to be a race and letting a front runner get away whilst actively preventing 10 horses getting involved is quite outrageous. If I was a trainer and I'd dragged my horse all the way there I'ds want an explanation as to why they sat off the leader so much in a 7f race. Horse Racing is all about times/timing. Might not sound like it but I’ve moved on now.

LOL! Mate, wake up. This is full of self-pity and blaming other factors. How about taking some responsibility? Been a while since I've read such a pile of shit as this to be honest. As long as you have that attitude, you'll continue to make those mistakes.

Bit harsh, but sometimes need to hear it.

As said, the profits were going well up until that result, so what can be taken from the experience.

Is the -£141.06 equivalent to 2% of the bank? If so, it hurts, but it's manageable. If not, an obvious over-staking error.

Reset and go again if the method if a profitable one and there's still value in the approach. The reset might be take a couple of days off, go for a long walk, go to gym, or whatever helps shake it off.

FWIW in my experience with Front Runners, some jockeys are better judges than others.

[MobiusGrey]

I've made some good profits from laying front runners in large fields, just on this occasion the front running jockey nailed the timing and the others fkd it up. There should be some sort of stewards enq when this happens as it is supposed to be a race and letting a front runner get away whilst actively preventing 10 horses getting involved is quite outrageous. If I was a trainer and I'd dragged my horse all the way there I'ds want an explanation as to why they sat off the leader so much in a 7f race. Horse Racing is all about times/timing. Might not sound like it but I’ve moved on now.

I come from a gambling background and that behaviour is not so easy to leave behind.

If you look at the last 10 races 9/10 of them were in profit. they were all Pre-Off with small stakes, so its going the right way.

Have you evaluated what it is you're trying to achieve? Are you wanting to drive an Aston Martin and accumulate as much wealth as you can through trading (which is fine if that is an aim) or are you just wanting to give up a shitty day job and live a fairly comfortable life through trading/betting?

For myself I found that as much as I wanted the former I couldn't handle the stress and emotions that comes with it, pre-race trading is extrememly hard to find an edge, you're up against some serious players in the market and you get chewed up and spat out pretty quickly if you make a mistake. I realised that I was actually quite happy to make a tidy sum and live a nice life but without the riches I'd get from pre-race. Dutching or value betting doesn't have the same allure to many and it's very unlikely you can make the kind of money you can pre-race but you can certainly make enough to not have to work. For me it was easier to find an edge dutching and value betting as you're more often up against mug punters and bookies laying off liablitly, if you get in early enough you can get some incredible value.

It's easier for me to find an edge in course form, horse form, trainer form etc. I too came from a gambling background so burying myself in stats was a little alien at first "what difference does it make if a horse as an OR of 75 compared to 68, and the jockey is claiming 5", well it does make a big difference to your selections.

Anyway, long story short, figure out what you want from your trading career first, the rest will fall into place.

[xtrader16]

I've made some good profits from laying front runners in large fields, just on this occasion the front running jockey nailed the timing and the others fkd it up. There should be some sort of stewards enq when this happens as it is supposed to be a race and letting a front runner get away whilst actively preventing 10 horses getting involved is quite outrageous. If I was a trainer and I'd dragged my horse all the way there I'ds want an explanation as to why they sat off the leader so much in a 7f race. Horse Racing is all about times/timing. Might not sound like it but I’ve moved on now.

LOL! Mate, wake up. This is full of self-pity and blaming other factors. How about taking some responsibility? Been a while since I've read such a pile of shit as this to be honest. As long as you have that attitude, you'll continue to make those mistakes.

If I want your opinion I will ask for it. Until then I suggest you S.T.F.U. As I explained in other posts I have made quite a bit of money from laying horses that go off to fast from the from and get swamped by the pack late on. The only thing I have said on is on this occasion the jockeys got thier timing s wrong and let the F.R lead to much.

I suggest you change the way you speak to me. I guarantee you wouldnt speak to me like that in the pub, so best check yourself. Mate.

[Trader Pat]

LOL! Mate, wake up. This is full of self-pity and blaming other factors. How about taking some responsibility? Been a while since I've read such a pile of shit as this to be honest. As long as you have that attitude, you'll continue to make those mistakes.

If I want your opinion I will ask for it. Until then I suggest you S.T.F.U. As I explained in other posts I have made quite a bit of money from laying horses that go off to fast from the from and get swamped by the pack late on. The only thing I have said on is on this occasion the jockeys got thier timing s wrong and let the F.R lead to much.

I suggest you change the way you speak to me. I guarantee you wouldnt speak to me like that in the pub, so best check yourself. Mate.

I don't agree with what arbitrage16 said or how he said it but it is a public forum so if you don't want people's opinions why post in the first place? By posting anything here you're acknowledging the right to reply of anybody on the forum.

[jamesg46]

David Probert is racking in some wins recently... I'm sure the commentator said after his first ride today that it made 6 on the bounce

[MobiusGrey]

David Probert is racking in some wins recently... I'm sure the commentator said after his first ride today that it made 6 on the bounce

He's destroying Ffos Las right now, 6 from 8, he had 5 in a row last night the swine. I've had to ditch Ffos Las for today as it's really messing with my mind and selections

** 7 out of 8!

[jamesg46]

David Probert is racking in some wins recently... I'm sure the commentator said after his first ride today that it made 6 on the bounce

He's destroying Ffos Las right now, 6 from 8, he had 5 in a row last night the swine. I've had to ditch Ffos Las for today as it's really messing with my mind and selections

Yeah, I'm certainly staying away from the lay side on his rides. Hopefully I can pick up on some confident backing... the confident feeling being on me.

[MobiusGrey]

David Probert is racking in some wins recently... I'm sure the commentator said after his first ride today that it made 6 on the bounce

He's destroying Ffos Las right now, 6 from 8, he had 5 in a row last night the swine. I've had to ditch Ffos Las for today as it's really messing with my mind and selections

Yeah, I'm certainly staying away from the lay side on his rides. Hopefully I can pick up on some confident backing... the confident feeling being on me.

Be interesting to see if pre-race his rides are now being backed in early?

[jamesg46]

He's destroying Ffos Las right now, 6 from 8, he had 5 in a row last night the swine. I've had to ditch Ffos Las for today as it's really messing with my mind and selections

Yeah, I'm certainly staying away from the lay side on his rides. Hopefully I can pick up on some confident backing... the confident feeling being on me.

Be interesting to see if pre-race his rides are now being backed in early?

Looks like they have on his 16:25 ride.

[MobiusGrey]

Yeah, I'm certainly staying away from the lay side on his rides. Hopefully I can pick up on some confident backing... the confident feeling being on me.

Be interesting to see if pre-race his rides are now being backed in early?

Looks like they have on his 16:25 ride.

Surely not on Red Walls in the 15:20. Surely not...........

[jamesg46]

Be interesting to see if pre-race his rides are now being backed in early?

Looks like they have on his 16:25 ride.

Surely not on Red Walls in the 15:20. Surely not...........

We can never rule anything out but it looks very unlikely

[MobiusGrey]

Looks like they have on his 16:25 ride.

Surely not on Red Walls in the 15:20. Surely not...........

We can never rule anything out but it looks very unlikely

Love it if he does, what a crazy run he's on

[jamesg46]

Surely not on Red Walls in the 15:20. Surely not...........

We can never rule anything out but it looks very unlikely

Love it if he does, what a crazy run he's on

Have you had a piece of that up at 18s?