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[Realrocknrolla]

Personally I think Greta will come good. Like a fine wine!

Horrible at first!

[weemac]

The interesting thing for me is the vocabulary used and the way arguments are framed. When I was a boy, we were very clearly taught that another 'ice age' was imminent. Twenty years later it morphed into 'global warming'.

A further twenty years pass and now we cover all bases by calling it 'climate change'.

I've noticed this vocabulary-related pattern with every other major discourse of the modern age. From 'gay' to 'science' to 'phobia', all you have to do is change words' meaning and their points of reference, and then you win your argument by default. Or at least you think you do, and that's all that matters.

[jimibt]

The interesting thing for me is the vocabulary used and the way arguments are framed. When I was a boy, we were very clearly taught that another 'ice age' was imminent. Twenty years later it morphed into 'global warming'.

A further twenty years pass and now we cover all bases by calling it 'climate change'.

i think in fairness re *global warming*, it's since been noted that there are a variety of changes in local and global weather systems and *climate change* really is a better description as that encompasses floods, drought, severe snow storms, ice cap meltoff, glacier reduction, increased forest fires etc...

[Derek27]

Climate change is really a misnomer because the climate changes anyway. It's really a change to the way the climate is changing.

[jimibt]

Climate change is really a misnomer because the climate changes anyway. It's really a change to the way the climate is changing.

armageddon ....anyone??

[Kai]

I watched a Storyville (BBC4) last night called 'The Age of Stupid' (from 2009) which was about climate change looking back from 2055 on our failure to act in the present day (2008).

I've had 'The Age of Stupid' on my drive for a decade I think, but sadly never got around to actually watch it. Same with Zeitgeist 2.

You really have to be in a very specific mood to watch these types of illusion-shattering docs.

[Kai]

Personally I think Greta will come good. Like a fine wine!

Horrible at first!

She's brilliant, that iconic speech still gives me chills : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVlRomp ... eTelegraph

[Tuco]

Climate change is really a misnomer because the climate changes anyway. It's really a change to the way the climate is changing.

...due to the position of the Solar System when travelling around the super-massive black hole at the centre of the Galaxy, the climate on Earth naturally changes as the gravity whilst travelling around the Milky Way changes in it's various parts.

[greenmark]

That's interesting. With Andrew Marr she said "you have to piss people off". And I do believe she's right. Even BJ says we're a minute from midnight on the climate.

If she really is of the thought that climate change is so dire, why does she oppose nuclear energy? I don't believe that is a compatible view. Maybe it's all an act of self-indulgence.

i don't think it's nuclear power per-se that she's objecting to, its the fact that we are still some way off from having a near zero halflife (or rather, dealing with the fact that the halflife can be thousands of years) on the depleted U235 (U238 is the *safe*(er) byproduct). however, investment in R&D will definitely speed up this quest. it's one of those techs where you have to look at the complete lifecycle, rather than just the emissions from the creation of the energy from the source.

Nuclear fusion is the Holy Grail in energy production.
But thats circa 2040 at best.
Is there any point, on that timescale, to go building more fission reactors? They take yonks to design and build.
I suspect this is why we're pushing renewables, even new oil fields (Cambo).
It's a variegated approach until we get to energy Nirvana.

[Realrocknrolla]

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[PDC]

Personally I think Greta will come good. Like a fine wine!

Horrible at first!

She's brilliant, that iconic speech still gives me chills : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVlRomp ... eTelegraph

The Remix Bros version of her blah blah blah speech was very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75y5EKe3Emc

[Korattt]

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[Derek27]

Personally I think Greta will come good. Like a fine wine!

Horrible at first!

She's brilliant, that iconic speech still gives me chills : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVlRomp ... eTelegraph

The Remix Bros version of her blah blah blah speech was very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75y5EKe3Emc

Incredible mixing!

[PDC]

Incredible mixing!

She should release it with them as a charity song, it's very catchy and been done very well.

[Kai]

Personally I think Greta will come good. Like a fine wine!

Horrible at first!

She's brilliant, that iconic speech still gives me chills : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVlRomp ... eTelegraph

The Remix Bros version of her blah blah blah speech was very good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75y5EKe3Emc

Brilliant Not seen that one! Yung Gret spitting them fax.

But may I propose a revolutionary idea, on how to battle corruption/greed and save the planet blah blah etc : anyone over 18 is automatically disqualified from being a world leader. Let the kids run the show, they're much smarter anyway than their wrinkly counterparts, we need to go full Peter Pan here to stand a chance. The folly of man is far too immense to do just about anything else. Am I serious? Who knows