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This doesn't seem to fire in practice mode for testing.

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What's the condition being used on the two rules?

and is it both that are not firing or just one?
If the lay bet rules isn't triggering to know if the Take SP rule is also not triggering or not you'll need to check the 'Automation' tab at the bottom of Guardian
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:26 pm
What's the condition being used on the two rules?

and is it both that are not firing or just one?
If the lay bet rules isn't triggering to know if the Take SP rule is also not triggering or not you'll need to check the 'Automation' tab at the bottom of Guardian
I think it was because I had a fixed odds condition on the lay bet rule. Should the fixed odds condition be on the take sp part?
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:33 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:26 pm
What's the condition being used on the two rules?

and is it both that are not firing or just one?
If the lay bet rules isn't triggering to know if the Take SP rule is also not triggering or not you'll need to check the 'Automation' tab at the bottom of Guardian
I think it was because I had a fixed odds condition on the lay bet rule. Should the fixed odds condition be on the take sp part?
Depends what its testing
If its the Actual SP it'll won't fire at all pre-off as it needs the SP after the race has started

If its the back,lay or LTP you are testing then as long as that's satisfied it should trigger - no matter which rule its on
ie, on the lay rule it won't trigger if its not met
on the take SP rule it will allow the lay to be placed but just won't be kept in-play if the condition isn't met
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:33 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:26 pm
What's the condition being used on the two rules?

and is it both that are not firing or just one?
If the lay bet rules isn't triggering to know if the Take SP rule is also not triggering or not you'll need to check the 'Automation' tab at the bottom of Guardian
I think it was because I had a fixed odds condition on the lay bet rule. Should the fixed odds condition be on the take sp part?
Depends what its testing
If its the Actual SP it'll won't fire at all pre-off as it needs the SP after the race has started

If its the back,lay or LTP you are testing then as long as that's satisfied it should trigger - no matter which rule its on
ie, on the lay rule it won't trigger if its not met
on the take SP rule it will allow the lay to be placed but just won't be kept in-play if the condition isn't met
Got ya.. so lay at actual sp with an odds condition the lay bet wont be matched.

So lay a nominated selection for 3% of balance to liability with a condition of the actual SP is under 40.0. ?

Heads smashed
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:22 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:33 pm


I think it was because I had a fixed odds condition on the lay bet rule. Should the fixed odds condition be on the take sp part?
Depends what its testing
If its the Actual SP it'll won't fire at all pre-off as it needs the SP after the race has started

If its the back,lay or LTP you are testing then as long as that's satisfied it should trigger - no matter which rule its on
ie, on the lay rule it won't trigger if its not met
on the take SP rule it will allow the lay to be placed but just won't be kept in-play if the condition isn't met
Got ya.. so lay at actual sp with an odds condition the lay bet wont be matched.

So lay a nominated selection for 3% of balance to liability with a condition of the actual SP is under 40.0. ?

Heads smashed
You can't use 'Actual SP' in a pre-off rule as it's not known until the race goes in-play, so you'd need to either;
Set the lay rule to trigger In play (and delete the keep rule)
Or keep the two rules but use 'Projected SP' in the condition
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:25 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:22 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:03 pm


Depends what its testing
If its the Actual SP it'll won't fire at all pre-off as it needs the SP after the race has started

If its the back,lay or LTP you are testing then as long as that's satisfied it should trigger - no matter which rule its on
ie, on the lay rule it won't trigger if its not met
on the take SP rule it will allow the lay to be placed but just won't be kept in-play if the condition isn't met
Got ya.. so lay at actual sp with an odds condition the lay bet wont be matched.

So lay a nominated selection for 3% of balance to liability with a condition of the actual SP is under 40.0. ?

Heads smashed
You can't use 'Actual SP' in a pre-off rule as it's not known until the race goes in-play, so you'd need to either;
Set the lay rule to trigger In play (and delete the keep rule)
Or keep the two rules but use 'Projected SP' in the condition
OK mate perfect...

Was just thinking will place the trade few secs before the off and then take sp on unmatched... i will get some above and some below in the long run no doubt?
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:29 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:25 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:22 pm


Got ya.. so lay at actual sp with an odds condition the lay bet wont be matched.

So lay a nominated selection for 3% of balance to liability with a condition of the actual SP is under 40.0. ?

Heads smashed
You can't use 'Actual SP' in a pre-off rule as it's not known until the race goes in-play, so you'd need to either;
Set the lay rule to trigger In play (and delete the keep rule)
Or keep the two rules but use 'Projected SP' in the condition
OK mate perfect...

Was just thinking will place the trade few secs before the off and then take sp on unmatched... i will get some above and some below in the long run no doubt?
Yes, it will all balance out in the end

Or another way if you are just wanting to trigger to a set SP would be to use the rule type 'Place SP lay bet' (instead of just a regular lay bet)
That works the same way as an SP ley on the Betfair website, the Parameters tab will then allow you to set your price and you could remove the fixed odds condition and the keep rule
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:40 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:29 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:25 pm


You can't use 'Actual SP' in a pre-off rule as it's not known until the race goes in-play, so you'd need to either;
Set the lay rule to trigger In play (and delete the keep rule)
Or keep the two rules but use 'Projected SP' in the condition
OK mate perfect...

Was just thinking will place the trade few secs before the off and then take sp on unmatched... i will get some above and some below in the long run no doubt?
Yes, it will all balance out in the end

Or another way if you are just wanting to trigger to a set SP would be to use the rule type 'Place SP lay bet' (instead of just a regular lay bet)
That works the same way as an SP ley on the Betfair website, the Parameters tab will then allow you to set your price and you could remove the fixed odds condition and the keep rule
I looked at that way mate but for love nor money couldn’t find the by liability as a percentage of balance in the stake. ?

Am i mad? 😂😂
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:43 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:40 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:29 pm


OK mate perfect...

Was just thinking will place the trade few secs before the off and then take sp on unmatched... i will get some above and some below in the long run no doubt?
Yes, it will all balance out in the end

Or another way if you are just wanting to trigger to a set SP would be to use the rule type 'Place SP lay bet' (instead of just a regular lay bet)
That works the same way as an SP ley on the Betfair website, the Parameters tab will then allow you to set your price and you could remove the fixed odds condition and the keep rule
I looked at that way mate but for love nor money couldn’t find the by liability as a percentage of balance in the stake. ?

Am i mad? 😂😂
Ah yes I see that's not there (so no your not going mad .... yet :D )

Option 1, it is then :)
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:50 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:43 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:40 pm


Yes, it will all balance out in the end

Or another way if you are just wanting to trigger to a set SP would be to use the rule type 'Place SP lay bet' (instead of just a regular lay bet)
That works the same way as an SP ley on the Betfair website, the Parameters tab will then allow you to set your price and you could remove the fixed odds condition and the keep rule
I looked at that way mate but for love nor money couldn’t find the by liability as a percentage of balance in the stake. ?

Am i mad? 😂😂
Ah yes I see that's not there (so no your not going mad .... yet :D )

Option 1, it is then :)

Unless and this is off my head thinking and I'd need to look at the available SV tomorrow but you may be able to store your balance as a liability to a Stored Value using the current price
If you done that at post time then used that Stored value by liability the actual SP usually isn't going to be far from that so you'd get near enough the amount you want on (providing the first part is possible)
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:50 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:43 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:40 pm


Yes, it will all balance out in the end

Or another way if you are just wanting to trigger to a set SP would be to use the rule type 'Place SP lay bet' (instead of just a regular lay bet)
That works the same way as an SP ley on the Betfair website, the Parameters tab will then allow you to set your price and you could remove the fixed odds condition and the keep rule
I looked at that way mate but for love nor money couldn’t find the by liability as a percentage of balance in the stake. ?

Am i mad? 😂😂
Ah yes I see that's not there (so no your not going mad .... yet :D )

Option 1, it is then :)
Should it be there?? Lol
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:54 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:50 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:43 pm


I looked at that way mate but for love nor money couldn’t find the by liability as a percentage of balance in the stake. ?

Am i mad? 😂😂
Ah yes I see that's not there (so no your not going mad .... yet :D )

Option 1, it is then :)
Should it be there?? Lol
Not sure TBH, there could be a reason it isn't included as these bets go straight to the BF SP pool
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Back again...

04/01/2022 08:58:38: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
04/01/2022 08:58:39: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
04/01/2022 10:51:48: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
04/01/2022 10:51:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Delta River. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Helvetian. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Inaam. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 3] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Capla Spirit with limit at 55. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 4] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Inaam with limit at 55. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 5] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Inaam with limit at 55. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:46: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Cappananty Con. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:50: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.49 Back SP bet placed on Cappananty Con with limit of 2. Ref: 255043693761
04/01/2022 12:31:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
04/01/2022 12:31:09: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
04/01/2022 12:31:09: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
04/01/2022 12:32:19: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Can someone explain the unable to place bets due to currency etc...

Pretty sure i had everything set today. BOO
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:35 pm
Back again...

04/01/2022 08:58:38: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
04/01/2022 08:58:39: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
04/01/2022 10:51:48: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
04/01/2022 10:51:49: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Delta River. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Helvetian. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Inaam. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 3] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Capla Spirit with limit at 55. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 4] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Inaam with limit at 55. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:45: [G_Auto 5] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Inaam with limit at 55. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:46: [G_Auto 2] : Unable to place lay SP bet on Cappananty Con. The size of your bet is invalid for your currency.
04/01/2022 12:29:50: [G_Auto 1] : £ 2.49 Back SP bet placed on Cappananty Con with limit of 2. Ref: 255043693761
04/01/2022 12:31:07: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
04/01/2022 12:31:09: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
04/01/2022 12:31:09: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
04/01/2022 12:32:19: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Can someone explain the unable to place bets due to currency etc...

Pretty sure i had everything set today. BOO
Is it to do with the amount (rules ) that BF have as a minimum for a lay at sp????
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