Australian Open 2022

[jimibt]

It's a great day for freedom of choice. Good on Djokovic hes a fantastic man. Gone way up in my estimation, unlike most of the people on here of have gone way down.

tbh - i don't think it's as simple as freedom of choice. whilst i'm definitely all for that, there also has to be an element of utilitarianism . if you are freely roaming unmasked with a known positive diagnosis then it doesn't imho make you a fantastic man, it simply shows that your chosen way to exhibit your freedom of choice is selfish and immature.

hope you still like me

[Trader Pat]

It's a great day for freedom of choice. Good on Djokovic hes a fantastic man. Gone way up in my estimation, unlike most of the people on here of have gone way down.

tbh - i don't think it's as simple as freedom of choice. whilst i'm definitely all for that, there also has to be an element of utilitarianism . if you are freely roaming unmasked with a known positive diagnosis then it doesn't imho make you a fantastic man, it simply shows that your chosen way to exhibit your freedom of choice is selfish and immature.

Exactly this.

[Trader Pat]

For me, I'm a reluctant Novak fan. 21 titles GOAT.

Don't be getting ahead of yourself

I fancy Medvedev to stop him especially with the lack of preparation etc.. but I wouldn't be shocked if Djokovic won it. Plus the added wildcard of players dropping out of the draw due to Covid could make for a very interesting tournament.

EDIT: The irony if Djokovic tests positive for Covid during the tournament!

[Kai]

It's a great day for freedom of choice. Good on Djokovic hes a fantastic man. Gone way up in my estimation, unlike most of the people on here of have gone way down.

tbh - i don't think it's as simple as freedom of choice. whilst i'm definitely all for that, there also has to be an element of utilitarianism . if you are freely roaming unmasked with a known positive diagnosis then it doesn't imho make you a fantastic man, it simply shows that your chosen way to exhibit your freedom of choice is selfish and immature.

hope you still like me

A'm a bawherr disappointed in ye as weel Jimbo, a man's freedom insae a laughing maiter

[Euler]

It's a great day for freedom of choice. Good on Djokovic hes a fantastic man. Gone way up in my estimation, unlike most of the people on here of have gone way down.

tbh - i don't think it's as simple as freedom of choice. whilst i'm definitely all for that, there also has to be an element of utilitarianism . if you are freely roaming unmasked with a known positive diagnosis then it doesn't imho make you a fantastic man, it simply shows that your chosen way to exhibit your freedom of choice is selfish and immature.

Exactly this.

Ditto

[gazuty]

The saga continues - Allegation in the AFR that Djokovic said he had been in Spain for the 14 days prior to entry into Australia. However, it is alleged in the AFR he has a social media post showing him in Serbia on 25 Dec. Separate to the Minister, Australian Border Force Officials are understood to be reviewing whether he had a false declaration (grounds for having visa cancelled).

Main draw scheduled to be drawn on Thursday 13 Jan. Surely the Government makes a final decision before then (in the interests of gambling - Australia's greatest past time).

[henbet22]

Yes it does look bleak for him now.

[archiebaldy]

tbh - i don't think it's as simple as freedom of choice. whilst i'm definitely all for that, there also has to be an element of utilitarianism . if you are freely roaming unmasked with a known positive diagnosis then it doesn't imho make you a fantastic man, it simply shows that your chosen way to exhibit your freedom of choice is selfish and immature.

Exactly this.

Ditto

I make my money from gambling one way or another. Do you all know the destruction and harm this causes to other human beings. Young children going without food,homes being lost. If you can turn a blind eye to all this. But in the next breath moan about a bloke who doesn't want a vaccine. Good luck to you all karma don't discriminate. Exactly this ditto.

Glass houses and stones.

[henbet22]

Such a mess though. Whether he plays or not...... its a right mess. Pantomine villain number 1 right now and then some.

[sionascaig]

Thought this was a bit bizarre:

"The travel declaration comes on top of reported anomalies on the official website showing Djokovic’s positive Covid test, which was the basis for his claimed medical exemption from vaccination. Der Spiegel reported that the QR code linked to Djokovic’s Covid-19 test on 16 December, published in court documents on Monday, at times appeared to return a negative result.

According to Der Spiegel, accessing Djokovic’s test result via QR code on Monday evening Australia time revealed a negative test result, before a subsequent attempt showed a positive result.

The website returned only positive results when accessed by the Guardian on Tuesday.

The New York Times reporter Ben Rothenberg similarly reported getting contradictory results from the same QR code."

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... avel-claim

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[jimibt]

Exactly this.

Ditto

I make my money from gambling one way or another. Do you all know the destruction and harm this causes to other human beings. Young children going without food,homes being lost. If you can turn a blind eye to all this. But in the next breath moan about a bloke who doesn't want a vaccine.

Exactly. The gamble that this bloke is taking with folks health thro' being willfully ignorant and his arrogance to the needs of others does demonstrate your point very neatly.

[Trader Pat]

Exactly this.

Ditto

I make my money from gambling one way or another. Do you all know the destruction and harm this causes to other human beings. Young children going without food,homes being lost. If you can turn a blind eye to all this. But in the next breath moan about a bloke who doesn't want a vaccine. Good luck to you all karma don't discriminate. Exactly this ditto.

Glass houses and stones.

More than a bit of a stretch to compare the two.

The issue isn't that he's unvaxxed, it's that he potentially attended public events when he knew he was Covid positive. I think we've clearly made that point.

One of my best mates is unvaxxed and he has no intention of getting any jab but a few months ago he tested positive and had to self isolate. He did what he had to and stayed home, he didn't go out unmasked into crowded areas with no regard for anybody else just because he doesn't want to get vaccinated.

[jimibt]

Ditto

I make my money from gambling one way or another. Do you all know the destruction and harm this causes to other human beings. Young children going without food,homes being lost. If you can turn a blind eye to all this. But in the next breath moan about a bloke who doesn't want a vaccine. Good luck to you all karma don't discriminate. Exactly this ditto.

Glass houses and stones.

More than a bit of a stretch to compare the two.

The issue isn't that he's unvaxxed, it's that he potentially attended public events when he knew he was Covid positive. I think we've clearly made that point.

One of my best mates is unvaxxed and he has no intention of getting any jab but a few months ago he tested positive and had to self isolate. He did what he had to and stayed home, he didn't go out unmasked into crowded areas with no regard for anybody else just because he doesn't want to get vaccinated.

as you'll have seen, the plot thickens on this one. both the guardian and a new york times journalist queried his covid pcr test online before the weekend and it showed up as being negative (which would make you think that's a great case for entering AUS). Roll fwd 2 days and the inquiry into his entry is in full swing and the same PCR result is now showing thta it was positive on the 16th DEC. Very convenient if you were looking for an exeption status clearance.

in short, some forensic digging will unearth the real story here. (maybe an antidody test would be the clincher!)

[Trader Pat]

as you'll have seen, the plot thickens on this one. both the guardian and a new york times journalist queried his covid pcr test online before the weekend and it showed up as being negative (which would make you think that's a great case for entering AUS). Roll fwd 2 days and the inquiry into his entry is in full swing and the same PCR result is now showing thta it was positive on the 16th DEC. Very convenient if you were looking for an exeption status clearance.

in short, some forensic digging will unearth the real story here. (maybe an antidody test would be the clincher!)

This is like anti-doping in reverse "Hello is this the lab? We need a positive test ASAP"

This saga raises more questions about medical exemptions in sport. They can be very controversial and if a person benefits from one then wins a major sporting event it leaves a question mark over their achievements.