Forums getting quieter

[Trader Pat]

No surprise really.

Forums get diluted because most people want to be part of a community that mirrors them. If the online space they're in doesn't reflect their current opinions or beliefs a majority of the time, they just migrate to one that does.

[napshnap]

No surprise really.

Forums get diluted because most people want to be part of a community that mirrors them. If the online space they're in doesn't reflect their current opinions or beliefs a majority of the time, they just migrate to one that does.

I guess it's more smartphone related problem. Centralized social media are designed for it specifically and decentralized forums are not. And to be honest I hate this global "from desktop to smartphone" switch.

[MAGTRADEUK]

No surprise really.

Forums get diluted because most people want to be part of a community that mirrors them. If the online space they're in doesn't reflect their current opinions or beliefs a majority of the time, they just migrate to one that does.

I guess it's more smartphone related problem. Centralized social media are designed for it specifically and decentralized forums are not. And to be honest I hate this global "from desktop to smartphone" switch.

Never understood why they are called "smartphones" when they reduce people to looking down all the time not watching where they are going, even crossing a road.

[Kazbet]

Last year there was a post about declining liquidity year-on-year... it feels like the forum is getting quieter recently and I've saw a couple of other people mention the same. The general BF forum seems to be 99% mug chat and another BF trading forum seems to have been active many years ago, only to die off almost completely in the last couple of years.

This doesn't make sense to me as I would have assumed that over time more people would coming into the BF trading world year-on-year, especially from the 2018-present boom in matched betting. I would have thought that there would be a lot more people looking for ways to make an income online in general and that many punters would have wisened up to how the exchange/trading offers better value.

Could it be that 10 years ago the casual punter with ladders could easily pick up an edge from the markets with enough money to go around all the software traders more evenly... which lead to many happy people coming online to discuss and set up challenges? As opposed to now when only the well-practiced traders and bots are taking most of the money from the markets? Thus any newbie doesn't stand much of a chance to last long enough and participate in a forum community? I'm not so sure that explains it though as profitability always feels like it's just round the corner and people like me will keep trying again and again as well as coming on here to try and learn more.

Alternatively people did get smarter and realised that they have nothing to gain by posting but everything to gain by reading the forum

Obviously there are still people making a lot of money from this but it sort of feels like a dying, or at least less active industry than 5-10 years ago

What are your thoughts?

I come from that matchbetting world and in my opinion trading is a different ball game which few match bettors will be successful at.
The concept of bet ten get ten is pretty easy to follow but most match bettors do not understand value ,variation ,probability and other simple maths let alone a trading plan or how to read .

Ive been learning to trade for about a year due to taking to much value from most UK bookies and it is taking some effort to make a profit.

I would probably say I have turned that corner now I have limited my exposure to stuff I though was good and focused on basic simple stuff.

This forum is a gold mine of information but its often hidden in a cryptic manner and takes a lot of time to discover ,Something most people are unwilling to put in for a few quid.

Thank fully at my age ( where's the moaning old gits thread ? ) I have enough common sense to see that most stuff on Y tube (even some of Peters) is just fairy tale or just out dated.

The other thing I notice is that the world we are now in means some people just dont want others to be successful because they them self are riding the train. Those people dont want to share knowledge even though they started and were guided at some time.
Match betting is typical, its now dead due to the volume of people and bookies getting smart.

Any how some good stuff on here ,keep it going and my thanks to the people who do post.
You learn every day.

[Derek27]

I come from that matchbetting world and in my opinion trading is a different ball game which few match bettors will be successful at.

Match bettors will only struggle to learn trading if match betting was the limit of their ability/aptitude, otherwise it's a question of how good you are at adapting to a different environment or task.

Thank fully at my age ( where's the moaning old gits thread ?

Here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14029

[Kazbet]

Ive come across some really clever MBers but most just want a quick buck.
Some were laughing at me last week when I said I would be happy to make £30 a day trading (not far off that )
Hopefully all this SOW and new laws will allow me to keep doing this for a long time.

[Derek27]

I've never known the last week's worth of topics to be down to just two pages.

[ODPaul82]

I'm not posting as much as I've being caring for a family member recently which whilst trying to trade the equivalent of full time whilst holding down a full time job. It makes it a tad difficult.

I was never a massive fan of posting onto forums for a number of years, there was a place I used to frequent where I first met Kai that had a forum and a chat room and in it's lifetime I think I posted 8-10 forum posts. Some people just don't get on with forums. That could be one reason.

With that there's a lot of people I feel/find want to follow others who do the fishing for them rather than learn to fish for themselves. They want to be told what to do and be fed the fish heads in discord/telegram/etc. Even if those fish heads have gone off they'll still lap them up like clapping sea-lions.

I'm not active on twatter anymore but the typical person I felt that was on here previously is currently lapping up those fish heads that were given out. The forum is a place of education but the masses are 6th formers gone truant.

I may put a target on my back for saying this and you live by the sword and die by it but I find the intellect of some of the people posting recently I'm surprised they can get themselves out of bed without their parents dressing them in the morning. They've got their hard on over TPD with its in-running data and how it's going to make them their riches when they're just looking at the same data as everyone else. That's not to slight TPD but I'm sure the masses are thinking "how can I back to lay and how can I lay to back, generically" (and I bold generically if I could).

The exchange has gone stagnant as well, people are more inclined for their envisaged quick win to look at crypto, to look at NTFs, as that's what made up the vast majority of the exchange, the mug people who fund the rest of us.

Patience is a virtue when trading and people properly look on here, it doesn't give them a+b = untold riches.

Patience is a virtue, virtue is a grace, grace was a dirty girl who didnt clean her face

[Trader Pat]

The forum has been quieter in general but there's been less BS and trolling which can only be a good thing (hope I've not jinxed it)

[Euler]

I think some of this is perceptual on this forum, as last month the numbers look similar to most months. But you will probably find the conversations are still taking place but on less threads.

We have seen a big decline on other forums though. So in general, saying it's quite overall is probably a correct observation.

[napshnap]

The forum has been quieter in general but there's been less BS and trolling which can only be a good thing (hope I've not jinxed it)

Wait till next US elections)

[Derek27]

Wait till Luke or Kahin's back.

[Emmson]

Yes even the long running *Trading What I see* thread of GOAT is not being updated as much. It's a gloomy outlook for the whole betfair exchange eco-system on multiple fronts.

[eatyourgreens]

............Havent heard much from memphis for a while either! I like looking at his "ski slope!"

[MobiusGrey]

............Havent heard much from memphis for a while either! I like looking at his "ski slope!"

Sounds like a bizarre euphemism