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Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:33 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:59 am
People should stop worrying about Putin launching nuclear missiles at the west.

There has been a system in place since the 1980s to deal with such an event, even for hypersonic ICBMs.
Any system that's was put in place 40 years ago is entirely irrelevant. Hypersonic missiles didn't even exist back then. Military experts say hypersonic missiles are unstoppable with today's technology, they travel too fast.

In football terms, a ballistic missile is the equivalent of a goalkeeper booting the ball up the field. You can see where it's going and a defender can possibly intercept it and header it away. Hypersonic gliding missiles are highly manoeuvrable, more like the way Maradonna went through our defenders as though they didn't exist, in 1986!

If or when a nuclear war breaks out I'm sure Russia will be completely obliterated but so will a large part of Western Europe.
The concept may have been introduced 40 years ago but it has been updated ever since.

I still think they will come up with a way of intercepting them. L3Harris Technologies was given a US contract in 2019 to come up with a system and part of that was looking at microwave technology to knock them out of the sky. It had some success for small incoming projectiles but finding further information about it is difficult as its all classified. Testing was done at that place in America, which I can't think the name of but if you come within 2 miles of the place you get vaporised. :D

“Developing and fielding such defenses will be challenging but not impossible,” the CSIS report concluded. “Hypersonic missiles are not unstoppable.”
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Kai
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:40 am
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:19 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:59 am
People should stop worrying about Putin launching nuclear missiles at the west.

There has been a system in place since the 1980s to deal with such an event, even for hypersonic ICBMs.


According to the Americans, Russia's new missile is impossible to intercept.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc1eC5b1yXA&t=133s
I wonder how many billion people would like to be alone in a room with Putin. I guess it's between 4 and 5. :)
Can't imagine there's so many that actually fancy him, between 4 and 5 people seems a bit of a stretch
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:48 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:33 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:59 am
People should stop worrying about Putin launching nuclear missiles at the west.

There has been a system in place since the 1980s to deal with such an event, even for hypersonic ICBMs.
Any system that's was put in place 40 years ago is entirely irrelevant. Hypersonic missiles didn't even exist back then. Military experts say hypersonic missiles are unstoppable with today's technology, they travel too fast.

In football terms, a ballistic missile is the equivalent of a goalkeeper booting the ball up the field. You can see where it's going and a defender can possibly intercept it and header it away. Hypersonic gliding missiles are highly manoeuvrable, more like the way Maradonna went through our defenders as though they didn't exist, in 1986!

If or when a nuclear war breaks out I'm sure Russia will be completely obliterated but so will a large part of Western Europe.
The concept may have been introduced 40 years ago but it has been updated ever since.

I still think they will come up with a way of intercepting them. L3Harris Technologies was given a US contract in 2019 to come up with a system and part of that was looking at microwave technology to knock them out of the sky. It had some success for small incoming projectiles but finding further information about it is difficult as its all classified. Testing was done at that place in America, which I can't think the name of but if you come within 2 miles of the place you get vaporised. :D

“Developing and fielding such defenses will be challenging but not impossible,” the CSIS report concluded. “Hypersonic missiles are not unstoppable.”
It takes years to develop and test such technology. You have to fight fire with fire. We need to find a way to get poison into his tea. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:01 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:48 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:33 am


Any system that's was put in place 40 years ago is entirely irrelevant. Hypersonic missiles didn't even exist back then. Military experts say hypersonic missiles are unstoppable with today's technology, they travel too fast.

In football terms, a ballistic missile is the equivalent of a goalkeeper booting the ball up the field. You can see where it's going and a defender can possibly intercept it and header it away. Hypersonic gliding missiles are highly manoeuvrable, more like the way Maradonna went through our defenders as though they didn't exist, in 1986!

If or when a nuclear war breaks out I'm sure Russia will be completely obliterated but so will a large part of Western Europe.
The concept may have been introduced 40 years ago but it has been updated ever since.

I still think they will come up with a way of intercepting them. L3Harris Technologies was given a US contract in 2019 to come up with a system and part of that was looking at microwave technology to knock them out of the sky. It had some success for small incoming projectiles but finding further information about it is difficult as its all classified. Testing was done at that place in America, which I can't think the name of but if you come within 2 miles of the place you get vaporised. :D

“Developing and fielding such defenses will be challenging but not impossible,” the CSIS report concluded. “Hypersonic missiles are not unstoppable.”
It takes years to develop and test such technology. You have to fight fire with fire. We need to find a way to get poison into his tea. :D
I think the FSB will do that shortly. The same bunch who been tipping Zelensky off about the assassination squads in Ukraine looking for him.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:01 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:48 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:33 am


Any system that's was put in place 40 years ago is entirely irrelevant. Hypersonic missiles didn't even exist back then. Military experts say hypersonic missiles are unstoppable with today's technology, they travel too fast.

In football terms, a ballistic missile is the equivalent of a goalkeeper booting the ball up the field. You can see where it's going and a defender can possibly intercept it and header it away. Hypersonic gliding missiles are highly manoeuvrable, more like the way Maradonna went through our defenders as though they didn't exist, in 1986!

If or when a nuclear war breaks out I'm sure Russia will be completely obliterated but so will a large part of Western Europe.
The concept may have been introduced 40 years ago but it has been updated ever since.

I still think they will come up with a way of intercepting them. L3Harris Technologies was given a US contract in 2019 to come up with a system and part of that was looking at microwave technology to knock them out of the sky. It had some success for small incoming projectiles but finding further information about it is difficult as its all classified. Testing was done at that place in America, which I can't think the name of but if you come within 2 miles of the place you get vaporised. :D

“Developing and fielding such defenses will be challenging but not impossible,” the CSIS report concluded. “Hypersonic missiles are not unstoppable.”
It takes years to develop and test such technology. You have to fight fire with fire. We need to find a way to get poison into his tea. :D
Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory that any of this actually exists. A clever way to steal billions in tax money and make the public believe it was spent on something useful.

Putin is working with the World Economic Forum and the western leaders, their friendship goes way back. They publicly collaborated just before the beginning of this "invasion" saying how they were just about to start working together to tackle global issues. Countries need to start becoming more self-sufficient whilst working together before the resources run out. People won't go along with their agenda without the media running another mass-hypnosis campaign to program how they think (and what they will change their profile picture to next).

We are currently seeing enabling acts being quietely pushed through UK parliament that will allow the government to only allow one narrative and shut down (soon to criminalise) anyone that questions it. Any intelligent person recognises that in a democracy there must be debate but sadly most will be conditioned into believing that opposing views are dangerous much like anyone who tried to stand up for the jews in WW2 was considered dangerous.

The ultimate irony is that the western governments who over the last 2 years attacked their own citizens for protesting, froze their bank accounts, stopped them seeing friends and family, reduced their kids' access to oxygen all day at school, ran psychological attacks to divide people, forced medical interventions upon them, stopped their right to travel, healthcare, work, run a business etc etc are trying to say that they stand against the very things that they have been doing to their own citizens under the guise of a health emergency which doesn't exist.

The irony is that the US and British have invaded countless countries throughout history and recently, dropped hundreds of thousands of bombs, imposed sanctions which lead to the starvation of millons of foreign children, actively been invading other countries for decades and that is fine, but when the leader of another country makes a calculated decision to try and stop neo-nazis killing his people (and their own) he is supposedly insane
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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:21 am
Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory that any of this actually exists. A clever way to steal billions in tax money and make the public believe it was spent on something useful.

Putin is working with the World Economic Forum and the western leaders, their friendship goes way back. They publicly collaborated just before the beginning of this "invasion" saying how they were just about to start working together to tackle global issues. Countries need to start becoming more self-sufficient whilst working together before the resources run out. People won't go along with their agenda without the media running another mass-hypnosis campaign to program how they think (and what they will change their profile picture to next).

We are currently seeing enabling acts being quietely pushed through UK parliament that will allow the government to only allow one narrative and shut down (soon to criminalise) anyone that questions it. Any intelligent person recognises that in a democracy there must be debate but sadly most will be conditioned into believing that opposing views are dangerous much like anyone who tried to stand up for the jews in WW2 was considered dangerous.

The ultimate irony is that the western governments who over the last 2 years attacked their own citizens for protesting, froze their bank accounts, stopped them seeing friends and family, reduced their kids' access to oxygen all day at school, ran psychological attacks to divide people, forced medical interventions upon them, stopped their right to travel, healthcare, work, run a business etc etc are trying to say that they stand against the very things that they have been doing to their own citizens under the guise of a health emergency which doesn't exist.

The irony is that the US and British have invaded countless countries throughout history and recently, dropped hundreds of thousands of bombs, imposed sanctions which lead to the starvation of millons of foreign children, actively been invading other countries for decades and that is fine, but when the leader of another country makes a calculated decision to try and stop neo-nazis killing his people (and their own) he is supposedly insane
While the manufacture of rubber goods is in no sense a secret industry, the majority of buyers and users of such goods have never stepped inside of a rubber mill, and many have very crude ideas as to how the goods are made up. In ordinary garden hose, for instance, the process is as follows: The inner tubing is made of a strip of rubber fifty feet in length, which is laid on a long zinc-covered table and its edges drawn together over a hose pole. The cover, which is of what is called “friction,” that is cloth with rubber forced through its meshes, comes to the hose maker in strips, cut on the bias, which are wound around the outside of the tube and adhere tightly to it. The hose pole is then put in something like a fifty foot lathe, and while the pole revolves slowly, it is tightly wrapped with strips of cloth, in order that it may not get out of shape while undergoing the process of vulcanizing. When a number of these hose poles have been covered in this way they are laid in a pan set on trucks and are then run into a long boiler, shut in, and live steam is turned on. When the goods are cured steam is blown off, the vulcanizer opened and the cloths are removed. The hose is then slipped off the pole by forcing air from a compressor between the rubber and the hose pole. This, of course, is what is known as hose that has a seam in it. For seamless hose the tube is made in a tubing machine and slipped upon the hose pole by reversing the process that is used in removing hose by air compression. In other words, a knot is tied in one end of the fifty foot tube and the other end is placed against the hose pole and being carefully inflated with air it is slipped on without the least trouble. For various kinds of hose the processes vary, and there are machines for winding with wire and intricate processes for the heavy grades of suction hose, etc. For steam hose, brewers’, and acid hose, special resisting compounds are used, that as a rule are the secrets of the various manufacturers. Cotton hose is woven through machines expressly designed for that purpose, and afterward has a half-cured rubber tube drawn through it. One end is then securely stopped up and the other end forced on a cone through which steam is introduced to the inside of the hose, forcing the rubber against the cotton cover, finishing the cure and fixing it firmly in its place. After the mixing of the compound and the calendering, that is the spreading it in sheets, the great roll of rubber and cloth that is to be made into corrugated matting is sent to the pressman. Here it is hung in a rack and fifteen or twenty feet of it drawn between the plates of the huge hydraulic steam press. The bottom plate of this press is grooved its whole length, so that when the upper platen is let down the plain sheet of rubber is forced into the grooves and the corrugations are formed. While in that position steam is let into the upper and lower platens and the matting is cured. After it has been in there the proper time, cold water is let into the press, it is cooled off, and the upper platen being raised, it is ready to come out. A simple device for loosening the matting from the grooves into which it has been forced is a long steel rod, with a handle on one hand like an auger handle, which, being introduced under the edge and twisted, allows the air to enter with it and releases it from the mould. Sheet packing is often times made in a press, like corrugated matting. The varieties, however, known as gum core have to go through a different process. Usually a core is squirted through a tube machine and the outside covering of jute or cotton, or whatever the fabric may be, is put on by a braider or is wrapped about it somewhat after the manner of the old fashioned cloth-wrapped tubing. The fabric is either treated with some heat-resisting mixture or something that is a lubricant, plumbago and oil being the compound. Other packings are made from the ends of belts cut out in a circular form and treated with a lubricant. There are scores of styles that make special claims for excellences that are made in a variety of ways, but as a rule the general system as outlined above is followed. The old fashioned way of making jar rings was first to take a large mandrel and wrap it around with a sheet of compounded rubber until the thickness of the ring was secured. It was then held in place by a further wrapping of cloth, vulcanized, put in a lathe and cut up into rings by hand. That manner of procedure, however, was too slow, and it is to-day done almost wholly by machinery. For example, the rubber is squirted out of a mammoth tubing machine in the shape of a huge tube, then slipped on a mandrel and vulcanized. It is then put in an automatic lathe and revolving swiftly is brought against a sharp knife blade which cuts ring after ring until the whole is consumed, without any handling or watching. And that is, in short, how mechanical rubber goods are made. So how does this interesting and informative wall of text correlate to the topic at hand? Well, it doesn't, but it still makes more sense than what alexmr2 posted above.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:01 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:48 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 10:33 am


Any system that's was put in place 40 years ago is entirely irrelevant. Hypersonic missiles didn't even exist back then. Military experts say hypersonic missiles are unstoppable with today's technology, they travel too fast.

In football terms, a ballistic missile is the equivalent of a goalkeeper booting the ball up the field. You can see where it's going and a defender can possibly intercept it and header it away. Hypersonic gliding missiles are highly manoeuvrable, more like the way Maradonna went through our defenders as though they didn't exist, in 1986!

If or when a nuclear war breaks out I'm sure Russia will be completely obliterated but so will a large part of Western Europe.
The concept may have been introduced 40 years ago but it has been updated ever since.

I still think they will come up with a way of intercepting them. L3Harris Technologies was given a US contract in 2019 to come up with a system and part of that was looking at microwave technology to knock them out of the sky. It had some success for small incoming projectiles but finding further information about it is difficult as its all classified. Testing was done at that place in America, which I can't think the name of but if you come within 2 miles of the place you get vaporised. :D

“Developing and fielding such defenses will be challenging but not impossible,” the CSIS report concluded. “Hypersonic missiles are not unstoppable.”
It takes years to develop and test such technology. You have to fight fire with fire. We need to find a way to get poison into his tea. :D
Wtf Derek, was this actual murder advice written by Dr Jekyll or Mr Hyde.
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Poison tea would never work anyway, he would be too suspicious to drink it. Only way to deal with him would be to sneak up behind him and hit him round the back of the head with a brick.

Can’t fingerprint a brick either, so you’re virtually guaranteed to get away with it.
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SteadySlobbin wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:01 am
Poison tea would never work anyway, he would be too suspicious to drink it. Only way to deal with him would be to sneak up behind him and hit him round the back of the head with a brick.

Can’t fingerprint a brick either, so you’re virtually guaranteed to get away with it.
Somebody’s on point 😏
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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 5:21 am
Sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory that any of this actually exists
You're advising me about conspiracy theories. :lol: :lol: :lol:

And then you come up with another one. :lol: :lol:
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:07 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:01 am
It takes years to develop and test such technology. You have to fight fire with fire. We need to find a way to get poison into his tea. :D
Wtf Derek, was this actual murder advice written by Dr Jekyll or Mr Hyde.
It was a joke James. Even without the emoji it should be obvious enough.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:10 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:07 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:01 am
It takes years to develop and test such technology. You have to fight fire with fire. We need to find a way to get poison into his tea. :D
Wtf Derek, was this actual murder advice written by Dr Jekyll or Mr Hyde.
It was a joke James. Even without the emoji it should be obvious enough.
Oh hi again my intellectually superior friend.
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Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:31 am
So how does this interesting and informative wall of text correlate to the topic at hand? Well, it doesn't, but it still makes more sense than what alexmr2 posted above.
Still not sold on the ability of our reptilian masters to cover up things I'm guessing :lol:
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Euler wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:32 am
Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:31 am
So how does this interesting and informative wall of text correlate to the topic at hand? Well, it doesn't, but it still makes more sense than what alexmr2 posted above.
Still not sold on the ability of our reptilian masters to cover up things I'm guessing :lol:
Just wanted to showcase to Alex how some of his posts look like from our perspective :lol:
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Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:43 am
Euler wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:32 am
Kai wrote:
Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:31 am
So how does this interesting and informative wall of text correlate to the topic at hand? Well, it doesn't, but it still makes more sense than what alexmr2 posted above.
Still not sold on the ability of our reptilian masters to cover up things I'm guessing :lol:
Just wanted to showcase to Alex how some of his posts look like from our perspective :lol:

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