Ukraine Crisis

[Kai]

Ukraine has bombed an oil depot in Russia

Kremlin should be happy they weren't aiming for the oil despot

[Archery1969]

Ukraine has bombed an oil depot in Russia

Kremlin should be happy they weren't aiming for the oil despot

[greenmark]

This guy Corbyn knew NATO were/are poking the bear 8 years ago, with their expand east agenda & the west have/had no moral high ground… pretty much what I’ve said and how I feel. Shame he’s not the leader of the opposition anymore.

https://youtu.be/KS8QH2eG6uk

Btw, Putin knows how to play his cards & play them at the right time but of course most will believe that he just woke up and forgot to take his meds one day.

Is there a Treaty that prevents ex-USSR countries jooing Nato? All I've found is reports of assurances and some comments reported in the media. They amount to diddly-squat. Treaties signed off by the appropriate respective representives matter.
Anything else is just hot air.
And moreover, which of Nato and Russia has poured into Ukraine and destroyed Mariupol and displaced millions and rained misery and terror on the civilian population? Putin wasn't poked at all. He's done it all himself and set Europe back 40 years.

I guess it's quite complex but I believe two of the requirements are that it has to be democratic and have the unanimous approval of every Nato member.

It isn't complicated. In normal life would you accept an important deal with a supplier on the basis of verbal assurances? I doubt it. So Russia/Putin are claiming betrayal as one the justifications for invasion.
It doesn't hold water at all.
Neither does de-nazification - Ukraine is no more nazified than anywhere else.
I'm even dubious about Kai's contention that a big driver is newly discovered natural resources. I've read Russia doesn''t have the technology to exploit those resources anyway.
I think we're just seeing the natural entropy of an autocratic system that doesn't properly aggregate the considered opinions of the country.
I'll say it again Russia could make such a great contribution.
But dictators are control freaks. They are either nasty (Saddam, Gadafi) or mistaken in their ability to manage (in this case 145 million) their people.

[Kai]

What odds would you give yourself on navigating this.

Those mines did get removed by Ukrainian soldiers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFY8rVwfbEU

[alexmr2]

What odds would you give yourself on navigating this.

Those mines did get removed by Ukrainian soldiers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFY8rVwfbEU

"Show's over troops, kick those fake mines to the side of the road and put them in the back of the truck with the other props"

[Kai]

What odds would you give yourself on navigating this.

Those mines did get removed by Ukrainian soldiers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFY8rVwfbEU

"Show's over troops, kick those fake mines to the side of the road and put them in the back of the truck with the other props"

The Russian TM-57 anti-tank mines need a minimum 120 kg of pressure to trigger. They're instructing civilians on how to remove them.

[alexmr2]

The Russian TM-57 anti-tank mines need a minimum 120 kg of pressure to trigger. They're instructing civilians on how to remove them.

A dangerous threshold if the average 80kg person thinks that they are safe so jump on it not realising that the momentum of the jump puts them over the threshold. Traders should never underestimate genuine momentum

[Derek27]

The Russian TM-57 anti-tank mines need a minimum 120 kg of pressure to trigger. They're instructing civilians on how to remove them.

A dangerous threshold if the average 80kg person thinks that they are safe so jump on it not realising that the momentum of the jump puts them over the threshold. Traders should never underestimate genuine momentum

"I wish I didn't have that pizza", will be someone's final thought.

[Derek27]

Funny that despite you not being a legal expert you come to an assumption that companies can’t sell their product to Russia… I thought I was asking the right person considering your assumption.

It's all about making it difficult, not a 100% blockade. If you think having 50% of your customers blocked doesn't matter you've got little understanding of business.

[jamesg46]

Funny that despite you not being a legal expert you come to an assumption that companies can’t sell their product to Russia… I thought I was asking the right person considering your assumption.

It's all about making it difficult, not a 100% blockade. If you think having 50% of your customers blocked doesn't matter you've got little understanding of business.

Nice flex there Derek… you’ve gone from “they can’t sell” to it’s about making it difficult. For a non expert you seem to be going through the can and can’t easily enough.

I think you’re making this up as you go along… not to worry, I won’t judge your intellectual superiority.

[Derek27]

Funny that despite you not being a legal expert you come to an assumption that companies can’t sell their product to Russia… I thought I was asking the right person considering your assumption.

It's all about making it difficult, not a 100% blockade. If you think having 50% of your customers blocked doesn't matter you've got little understanding of business.

Nice flex there Derek… you’ve gone from “they can’t sell” to it’s about making it difficult. For a non expert you seem to be going through the can and can’t easily enough.

I think you’re making this up as you go along… not to worry, I won’t judge your intellectual superiority.

The lengths you go to to try and win an argument! If I said I can't cook nobody would think I can't cook bacon and scrambled eggs, they just wouldn't ask me to cook a Sunday roast!

[Derek27]

What odds would you give yourself on navigating this.

Those mines did get removed by Ukrainian soldiers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFY8rVwfbEU

Wow, it takes a lot of skill to do that!

[Derek27]

Pots and Kettles

Ukraine has bombed an oil depot in Russia..............Kremlin not happy and say it will hamper peace talks !!!

FFS

Ukraine will neither confirm nor deny responsibility. It would be a dangerous move allowing Putin to claim he's under attack and esculate.

[Archery1969]

Those supposedly Ukraine helicopters which attacked the Oil Depot in Russia look very much like the new AH-64E Apache Helicopter (2021), which Ukraine does not have.

AH-64E Apache Helicopter:
- 16 Hellfire missiles,
- 76 Hydra 70mm rockets
- Chain gun with 1,200 30mm rounds
- Speed 186mph
- Detect 250+ threats from upto 10 miles away in seconds.

The only countries which have them are the US, UK, Netherlands, Singapore, UAE and Israel.

If they were the same and Ukraine has them then who has been a naughty boy, BoJo, what ya done and don't deny it.

[Derek27]

Those supposedly Ukraine helicopters which attacked the Oil Depot in Russia look very much like the new AH-64E Apache Helicopter (2021), which Ukraine does not have.

AH-64E Apache Helicopter:
- 16 Hellfire missiles,
- 76 Hydra 70mm rockets
- Chain gun with 1,200 30mm rounds
- Speed 186mph
- Detect 250+ threats from upto 10 miles away in seconds.

The only countries which have them are the US, UK, Netherlands, Singapore, UAE and Israel.

If they were the same and Ukraine has them then who has been a naughty boy, BoJo, what ya done and don't deny it.

I used to fly one of those on the old ZX Spectrum. Great fun.