Back to Lay a Jockey with 2 wins at a meeting

[shakey1964]

This is probably going to seem like just a piece of trivia but I got interested in Dallas' automation file that alerts you when a jockey has 2 wins at a meeting

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I have being going through the racing results for March 2022 and have found the following.

March 3rd Taunton
Harry Cobden won races 2 and 3 His next ride was in the last on Urban Soldier BSP 10.32 in running traded low 6.0
Urban Soldier BSP 10.32 ip low 6.0

March 5th Kelso
Brian Hughes won races 3 and 4. His next ride was in the 5th on Severance BSP 9.68 In running traded at a low of 2.0.
Severance BSP 9.68 ip low 2.0
In the 6th he rode Heartbreak Kid to last BSP 8.11 in running low of 7.2
Heart Break Kid BSP 8.11 ip low 7.2

March 5th Navan
L.P. Dempsey won races 1 and 2 then in the 3rd rode Jazzelle
BSP 1000 No Trade in play
Jazzelle BSP 1000 no trade

6th March Leopardstown
J.W. Kennedy won 1st and 4th races, Next ride in the 5th on One Down BSP 20.19 in running trade low of 6.0
One Down BSP 20.19 ip low 6.0

10th March Southwell
David Probert won the 2nd and 3rd races Next ride was on But You Said BSP 36 ip low of 20
But You Said BSP 36 ip low 20
He then went onto ride Second Collection BSP 11.01 ip low 10.5
Second Collection BSP 11.01 ip low 10.5

11th March Exeter
Stan Sheppard won races 3 and 4 his next ride was in the last on Kestrel Valley BSP 6.45 ip low of 1.54
Kestrel Valley BSP 6.45 ip low 1.54

13th March Limerick
Phillip Enright won races 3 and 4. His next ride was on Extreme Cacao in the 5th which fell at the last BSP 18 ip low 2
Extreme Cacao BSP 18 ip low 2.0

Onto the 6th race where he rode That’ll Be The Day BSP 54.49 ip low 32
That’ll Be The Day BSP 54.49 ip low 32

In the 7th he rode Sir Bob into 2nd place with a BSP of 4.63 and an ip low of 1.89
Sir Bob BSP 4.63 ip low 1.89

14th March Plumpton
Tom Cannon won the 1st and 4th races and his next ride in the last was Sami Bear BSP 4.5 ip low 3.4
Sami Bear BSP 4.5 ip Low 3.4

15th March Newcastle
Jack Mitchell won the 1st and 3rd. Next ride was in the 4th on Bold Ribb BSP 4.9 ip low 7.0
Bold Ribb BSP 4.9 ip low 7.0

15th March Sedgefield
Jack Tudor won the 2nd and 6th with his last ride Tik Tok in the last race going off as favourite at a BSP of 3.1 and an ip low of 1.63
Tik Tok BSP 3.1 ip Low 1.63

15th March Southwell
Daniel Muscutt rode winners in the 3rd and 4th races. Next ride was Affwonn in the 5th BSP 10 ip low 4.0
Affwonn BSP 10 ip low 4.0

16th March Cheltenham
P. Townend rode winners in the 1st and 3rd races His next and final ride of the day was in the last on Redemtion Day BSP 9.67 ip low 10.0
Redemtion Day BSP 9.67 ip low 10.0

16th March Newcastle
Ben Curtis won races 1 and 2 his next ride in the last was Fircombe Hall BSP 9.6 ip low 9.6
Fircombe Hall BSP 9.6 ip low 9.6

17th March Hexham
Sean Quinlan rode winning horses in the 2nd and 4th races His next ride was Wavelength in the 5th BSP 22 ip low 6.2
Wavelength BSP 22 ip Low 6.2

18th March Cheltenham
P. Townend won races 1 and 2. His next ride in the 3rd was Minella Cocooner BSP 6.4 ip low 1.51
Minella Cocooner BSP 6.4 ip Low 1.51
He rode Al Boum Photo in the 4th BSP 7.8 ip Low 5.1
Al Boum Photo BSP 7.8 ip Low 5.1
Concertista was his next BSP 3.27 ip low 2.6
Concertista BSP 3.27 ip Low 2.6

As you can see there is a pattern forming just from this small selection of instances from the first 18 days of racing in March. There are some examples that wouldn’t have traded at an offset lay bet of 10 ticks but that isn’t to say whether or not the price you might have got just after his/her second win wouldnt have been much higher that the BSP as in the example of Harry Skelton yesterday where 7.8 was available on Colonel Manderson just after his second win of the day, which went off at a BSP of 5.4. In this case the B2L trade would have matched before the race even started.

All the runners in red didnt trade out at 10 ticks

[shakey1964]

Tom Bellamy has just won his second race at Chepstow
Odds available on his next ride in the next race 8.0 (on US platform)

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A 10 tick offset lay bet on this would need to be at 6.0

[shakey1964]

Hi All
Daniel Tudhope had 2 winners at Redcar today. His next ride, Hortzader, was second by a nose. I was wondering if this had the bookies in a bit of a tiz as his ride after that was second again after starting Favourite
Does anyone have any pre racing odds records that might suggest this

[Dallas]

Bookies will carve up the odds if a jockey rides a few winners in a row because they'll start amassing large liabilities from acca's etc and want these kept as low as possible, and of course you also have punters jumping onto trends driving the price down as well
The most memorable was Frankie Detories super seven during a regular Ascot meeting - but that was pre Betfair

In more recent years Ryan Moore had a good run at Royal Ascot, you can see what happened to the prices as the day progressed in this blog
https://www.betfairtradingblog.com/betf ... yan-moore/

[shakey1964]

Thanks Dallas
Thats useful
I am still in the USA for a couple of days so I cant use betangel
In fact in the land of the "free" you cant bet, use betangel, drink until you are 21

[Dallas]

Thanks Dallas
Thats useful
I am still in the USA for a couple of days so I cant use betangel
In fact in the land of the "free" you cant bet, use betangel, drink until you are 21

At least to can carry an automatic weapon

[shakey1964]

Not in Disney - You have to leave it in your car