Just a thought, but would it be possible to offer a complete replay in the practice environment, including odds changes, actual volume growth etc, offering the chance to adjust some rules and second-guess yourself against the identical circumstances? With reasonably small stakes the results should be relevant enough to be of help.
I understand that storage may well be an issue, but maybe a couple of days' worth of races could be made available at a time?
Any thoughts, anybody?
Horse race 'live' replay?
Betfair don't allow anything to be developed that accesses their historical data without paying them a substantial fee signing a data license agreement and that involves paying them a hefty fee upfront.
Even if it were users would then need to buy there own data direct from Betfair, which they currently charge £200pm for or £70pm if you just wanted 1 second data but that's pretty useless for what you'd want it for and I doubt more than a handful would ever consider paying either of those
Even if it were users would then need to buy there own data direct from Betfair, which they currently charge £200pm for or £70pm if you just wanted 1 second data but that's pretty useless for what you'd want it for and I doubt more than a handful would ever consider paying either of those
If you record the data yourself to a history list then export to Excel then creating a player within Excel can be done. The slider control advances or goes back at 1s increments and the values are picked up from Pivot tables and displayed in the charts.
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Thanks both for your replies - I was thinking of the situation where I could simply run my rules against a re-run exactly as I run them against the live race. I was hoping that the streamed feed could be captured and made available on demand. Would be great to compare slight guardian adjustments by using the exact race again. I know that I can run multiple instances of BA with different rules, but when something unusual happens in a race that I'd like to guard against it would be very helpful to go back and second-guess myself using the identical curcumstances.
Anyway, I thought I'd ask.
Atho55 - thanks for your idea - a far more elegant solution than poring over logs!
Anyway, I thought I'd ask.
Atho55 - thanks for your idea - a far more elegant solution than poring over logs!
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As Dallas says the issue is licencing. Betfair sell the data so aren't keen about making collecting it easily.
That said, people do collect the entire api stream, and have the software to reply it enabling 00s of variations to be tested easily with a useable degree of accuracy. But, to do that you have to move to the next level and create your own personal use only software to do it. Betfair are fully supportive of this and provide the necessary components as shareware but it's still a significant effort learning now and doing it. And of course a tool is just a tool and there's no certainty you'll make anything useful.
Bottom line is that facilities like that are possible but not through a general purpose 'jack of all trades' (pun) consumer product such as BA. And frankly the complexity involved and analysis to make use of the results aren't the sort of thing many people would be willing to pay for. Besides once you reach that level you want full and total control anyway rather than just being tied to whatever features you'd be given.
You're thinking the right way though, and if you want to succeed then don't let lack of effort be a reason for failure. You'll take a year+ to become profitable whatever you do so why not aim to be in a strong position in 12 months time rather than just wishing you were.