Hide pre activity after going inplay?

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senti
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Is there a function in BA to hide bets made pre?

I want a clean sheet when trading the same market inplay. And at the same time protect my pre bets from "harm" when the intention is to let them run. But that's not the case if they are included in the greening up calculations made inplay.

If there could be a check box in the ladder interface with the option to hide all pre activity, that would be great.

Thanks.
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Dallas
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Betfair don't facilitate any way of hiding/excluding bets

You'd need another account if you wanted to separate strategies and certain bets etc
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ODPaul82
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Create a second account with betfair and have a different instance of BA logged into that account.
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Derek27
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I thought second accounts are no longer allowed unless you have a high turnover and qualify for a master account.

I'd love to have my old second account for automation and strategy testing.
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Dallas
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If you have a BF account manager then you can request to switch to a master & subaccount account and then create as multiple subaccounts
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ShaunWhite
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Dallas wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:08 pm
Betfair don't facilitate any way of hiding/excluding bets
Not exactly true, BA doesn't but Betfair do, customerStrategyRef? You could even hard code them as PP and IP if you wanted to keep it simple. Or if BA has an aversion to custSratRef then it could just snapshot your order book on a mouse click and then display the delta from then on?

But frankly it's fraught with danger, resetting without noticing a big liability is the problem. I wouldn't do it with anything apart from automation as that can contain the safeguards.
senti
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Thanks for the feedback!

I might get this wrong but I'm not sure what BF has to do with how information is presented on the BA screen or influence how calculations are made. It should be a software thing not restricted by BF.

A rule that displays bets based on when they where placed as every bet has a time-stamp it seems possible to separate them into categories. Pre and live in this case. The calculation will only consider the values the rule permit and then display the result.
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ShaunWhite
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senti wrote:
Mon Apr 18, 2022 4:21 pm
Thanks for the feedback!

I might get this wrong but I'm not sure what BF has to do with how information is presented on the BA screen or influence how calculations are made. It should be a software thing not restricted by BF.

A rule that displays bets based on when they where placed as every bet has a time-stamp it seems possible to separate them into categories. Pre and live in this case. The calculation will only consider the values the rule permit and then display the result.
It matters because BA can only show or derive info from what BF delivers. And you can't just use a local record of your bets otherwise it won't necessarily correlate with your position at betfair (what's been matched, or what failed, or what got delayed by the Internet). Your position has to be reconciled with the Betfair order book, and then to filter that by specific bet references would introduce a delay, especially for those people placing 100s of bets per market.

I think it would be detrimental to the 99% who'd never use it. Your PL at any given moment shouldn't be something that enters your decision making process anyway. The market doesn't care if you're up or down and won't be offering good or bad prices based on it. If you place bets based on your PL they're essentially random bets and 0ev.
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