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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:51 am
Will the US launch preemptive strike on Russia May 9th.

Unthinkable but dark web hacking chatter thinks something is in the pipeline.

Biden approval rating is shattered, so maybe he thinks doing something mad will propel him to stardom. After all, nobody thought the US was going to drop a bomb on Japan back then, did they.

Scary times.
If it's on the dark web it must be true. You should start a new scaremongering thread. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:58 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:51 am
Will the US launch preemptive strike on Russia May 9th.

Unthinkable but dark web hacking chatter thinks something is in the pipeline.

Biden approval rating is shattered, so maybe he thinks doing something mad will propel him to stardom. After all, nobody thought the US was going to drop a bomb on Japan back then, did they.

Scary times.
If it's on the dark web it must be true. You should start a new scaremongering thread. ;)
Something is going to happen Derek. Putin needs something for Victory day and US needs to destroy whatever that may be.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 1:04 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:58 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:51 am
Will the US launch preemptive strike on Russia May 9th.

Unthinkable but dark web hacking chatter thinks something is in the pipeline.

Biden approval rating is shattered, so maybe he thinks doing something mad will propel him to stardom. After all, nobody thought the US was going to drop a bomb on Japan back then, did they.

Scary times.
If it's on the dark web it must be true. You should start a new scaremongering thread. ;)
Something is going to happen Derek. Putin needs something for Victory day and US needs to destroy whatever that may be.
The US has a no first use policy and a conventional attack will result in nuclear retaliation. Putin doesn't need to do anything. He can simply tell his nation that the special operation has been a success and all Nazis have been killed. 10 years in prison for anyone who disputes it.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:51 am
Will the US launch preemptive strike on Russia May 9th.

Unthinkable but dark web hacking chatter thinks something is in the pipeline.

Biden approval rating is shattered, so maybe he thinks doing something mad will propel him to stardom. After all, nobody thought the US was going to drop a bomb on Japan back then, did they.

Scary times.
Why the h yanks keep buying agricultural goods and rare metals from Russia then? This logic doesn't fit. It's not even shooting their own leg it's sawing it off! And for what, "democratic values" protection, why isn't Saudi Arabia bombed (I don't want it, I'm just asking a question) into ashes for the conflict in Yemen then?
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 1:26 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 1:04 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 12:58 am


If it's on the dark web it must be true. You should start a new scaremongering thread. ;)
Something is going to happen Derek. Putin needs something for Victory day and US needs to destroy whatever that may be.
The US has a no first use policy and a conventional attack will result in nuclear retaliation. Putin doesn't need to do anything. He can simply tell his nation that the special operation has been a success and all Nazis have been killed. 10 years in prison for anyone who disputes it.
Yep, "Perimeter system".
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The IL80 nuclear command & control aircraft that Putin will be flying in in the event of a nuclear war is going to be in the Victory Day parade.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 1:32 pm
The IL80 nuclear command & control aircraft that Putin will be flying in in the event of a nuclear war is going to be in the Victory Day parade.
Hmm, that's unnecessary, it's like: "Look, I'll survive in this thing while you're gonna melt from nuclear blast! Isn't it cool?!" - hmmm... NOT! It's not what a real captain does.
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napshnap wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 2:55 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat May 07, 2022 1:32 pm
The IL80 nuclear command & control aircraft that Putin will be flying in in the event of a nuclear war is going to be in the Victory Day parade.
Hmm, that's unnecessary, it's like: "Look, I'll survive in this thing while you're gonna melt from nuclear blast! Isn't it cool?!" - hmmm... NOT! It's not what a real captain does.
That's what I was thinking. He feels safe but what does he do when it runs out of fuel. Where's he gonna land? Just hope he thinks it through.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 02, 2022 10:56 pm
Looks like Putin is going away for a cancer operation and handing over power to Nikolai Patrushev. Apparently he is not a very nice person and much more hardline. :o

There is also further speculation that Putin is suffering from Parkinson’s disease too.
You don't want someone with Parkinson's disease to have their finger hovering over the nuclear button!! :shock:
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Former Cold War architector George Kennan about nato unnecessary expansion - https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opin ... rom-x.html
...It shows so little understanding of Russian history and Soviet history. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are -- but this is just wrong.
So, stupid russophobia (and in fact - racism) is the cause and nato's aim was not communism but Russia. That explains natos strange unwillingness to let Russia join nato or negotiate with Russia.
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napshnap wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 8:19 am
Former Cold War architector George Kennan about nato unnecessary expansion - https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opin ... rom-x.html
...It shows so little understanding of Russian history and Soviet history. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are -- but this is just wrong.
So, stupid russophobia (and in fact - racism) is the cause and nato's aim was not communism but Russia.
Shut up you muppet. NATA doesn't go around asking countries to join. Its upto each individual country what they join or dont join. Maybe if Russia stoped using the N word all the time then countries wouldn't feel the need to join NATA for added protection.

Raping and mudering children is not the norm for most civilised Armed Forces.

Russia has the GDP of Texas and is about to default on its debts. Putin needs to go one way or the other.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 9:24 am
napshnap wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 8:19 am
Former Cold War architector George Kennan about nato unnecessary expansion - https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opin ... rom-x.html
...It shows so little understanding of Russian history and Soviet history. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are -- but this is just wrong.
So, stupid russophobia (and in fact - racism) is the cause and nato's aim was not communism but Russia.
Shut up you muppet. NATA doesn't go around asking countries to join. Its upto each individual country what they join or dont join. Maybe if Russia stoped using the N word all the time then countries wouldn't feel the need to join NATA for added protection.

Raping and mudering children is not the norm for most civilised Armed Forces.

Russia has the GDP of Texas and is about to default on its debts. Putin needs to go one way or the other.
Relax, why're you shouting on George Kennan)? the guy is a dead already.

"Its upto each individual country what they join or dont join."

It would be superlogical to let Russia join nato (there were natos bases on Russia's territory once upon a time, may I remind you) to make the whoe world a safe palce, but it didn't happen.

"Maybe if Russia stoped using the N word all the time then countries wouldn't feel the need to join NATA for added protection."

Too abstract.

"Raping and mudering children is not the norm for most civilised Armed Forces."

Agree with that. I keep repeating - I want this conflict to stop, and if all this madness is all about saving people's lives YOU must rein in your "dogs of war" who is right now stuffing the very unsable region with weaponry, intel and instructors. At least you have the ability to civilly influence your politicans, but I'm starting to doubt if you really want it. You're "enlightened", you set the standards of humanity, you eat authoritarian regimes and sh*t out "democratic values", SO make your step, be a good example for the rest already, damn it!


"Russia has the GDP of Texas and is about to default on its debts. Putin needs to go one way or the other."

EU keeps buying Russia's natural recourses, US keeps buying Russia's rare metals, agricultural products and fertilizers and same time they continue to threaten Russia with default, strange isn't it? May I also remind you that EU and US is not a "the whole world", so there is and will be other buyers. EU and US or the West really should stop this "hegemon" sh*t until the rest of the world started laughing at them.

"Putin needs to go one way or the other."

He will some day, but what will it really change in terms of nato/Russia relations? I advise you to stop fixating on him, it's not healthy.
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napshnap wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 9:55 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 9:24 am
napshnap wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 8:19 am
Former Cold War architector George Kennan about nato unnecessary expansion - https://www.nytimes.com/1998/05/02/opin ... rom-x.html



So, stupid russophobia (and in fact - racism) is the cause and nato's aim was not communism but Russia.
Shut up you muppet. NATA doesn't go around asking countries to join. Its upto each individual country what they join or dont join. Maybe if Russia stoped using the N word all the time then countries wouldn't feel the need to join NATA for added protection.

Raping and mudering children is not the norm for most civilised Armed Forces.

Russia has the GDP of Texas and is about to default on its debts. Putin needs to go one way or the other.
Relax, why're you shouting on George Kennan)? the guy is dead already.

"Its upto each individual country what they join or dont join."

It would be superlogical to let Russia join nato (there were natos bases on Russia's territory once upon a time, may I remind you) to make the whoe world a safe palce, but it didn't happen.

"Maybe if Russia stoped using the N word all the time then countries wouldn't feel the need to join NATA for added protection."

Too abstract.

"Raping and mudering children is not the norm for most civilised Armed Forces."

Agree with that. I keep repeating - I want this conflict to stop, and if all this madness is all about saving people's lives YOU must rein in your "dogs of war" who is right now stuffing the very unsable region with weaponry, intel and instructors. At least you have the ability to civilly influence your politicans, but I'm starting to doubt if you really want it.

"Russia has the GDP of Texas and is about to default on its debts. Putin needs to go one way or the other."

EU keeps buying Russia's natural recourses, US keeps buying Russia's rare metals, agricultural products and fertilizers and same time they continue to threaten Russia with default, strange isn't it? May I also remind you that EU and US is not a "the whole world", so there is and will be other buyers. EU and US or the West really should stop this "hegemon" shit until the rest of the world started laughing at them.

"Putin needs to go one way or the other."

He will some day, but what will it really change in terms of nato/Russia relations? I advise you to stop fixating on him, it's not healthy.
After what Russia has done in Ukraine there is no way on earth they would ever be allowed to join Nato. I doubt sanctions will be lifted even if Putin goes. The US and EU are slowly moving away from buying anything from Russia. In 30 years time we wont be needing much Oil or Gas so Russia income will be smashed to bits.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 10:22 am
napshnap wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 9:55 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 9:24 am


Shut up you muppet. NATA doesn't go around asking countries to join. Its upto each individual country what they join or dont join. Maybe if Russia stoped using the N word all the time then countries wouldn't feel the need to join NATA for added protection.

Raping and mudering children is not the norm for most civilised Armed Forces.

Russia has the GDP of Texas and is about to default on its debts. Putin needs to go one way or the other.
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After what Russia has done in Ukraine there is no way on earth they would ever be allowed to join Nato. I doubt sanctions will be lifted even if Putin goes. The US and EU are slowly moving away from buying anything from Russia. In 30 years time we wont be needing much Oil or Gas so Russia income will be smashed to bits.
Yes, that's obvious, that is why we're sitting here (this topic) a little worried about nuclear holocaust. 30 years today is a huge period, recent few years are felt like a time machine like really really sh*tty banal movie, I don't know what to expect next - the first contact maybe or reptiloids lose their skin on camera? and you're saying Russia income will be smashed to bits...
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That's allot of lost equipment in 9 weeks or so.
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