boris and rishi partygate fines

[Derek27]

I am slighly confused by something, during the pandemic, we borrowed £460 billion from international markets and now paying an obscene amount of interest.

Why didn't we borrow it from the Bank of England interest free plus issue government bonds ?

They needed an excuse to collapse the global economy so we can reset the financial system.

It needed changed from an unsustainable system which glorifies debt, greed and consuming resources to one which focuses on conserving resources before it's too late. It will change our behaviours such as phasing out international travel, gas heating systems and fossil fuel vehicle ownership

Life must be pretty depressing to have such a negative view about every person on the planet.

[alexmr2]

I am slighly confused by something, during the pandemic, we borrowed £460 billion from international markets and now paying an obscene amount of interest.

Why didn't we borrow it from the Bank of England interest free plus issue government bonds ?

They needed an excuse to collapse the global economy so we can reset the financial system.

It needed changed from an unsustainable system which glorifies debt, greed and consuming resources to one which focuses on conserving resources before it's too late. It will change our behaviours such as phasing out international travel, gas heating systems and fossil fuel vehicle ownership

Life must be pretty depressing to have such a negative view about every person on the planet.

The planet is flat and not every person... David Icke will save us and Caan will teach us how to make a profit

[Derek27]

No. 10 can't remember who called the meeting and nobody knows what was discussed. Presumably, the minutes of the meeting have been lost.

[Derek27]

Has anyone seen the This England trailer? Incredible likeness, both, in looks and mannerisms!!

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[greenmark]

Has anyone seen the This England trailer? Incredible likeness, both, in looks and mannerisms!!

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IMO Brannagh is a proper actor. He can fool you into willingly suspending disbelief. Wallander is a favourite of mine.

[Derek27]

Captain hindsight said he anticipated a meeting between BJ and Gray.

[Archery1969]

Has anyone seen the This England trailer? Incredible likeness, both, in looks and mannerisms!!

Main-image-TE.jpg

IMO Brannagh is a proper actor. He can fool you into willingly suspending disbelief. Wallander is a favourite of mine.

Wallander was excellent!!

[Archery1969]

Captain hindsight said he anticipated a meeting between BJ and Gray.

Another photo appears of BJ drinking at number 10.

[Derek27]

Captain hindsight said he anticipated a meeting between BJ and Gray.

Another photo appears of BJ drinking at number 10.

You'd think we would have, like many criminals do, ask the police to take 200 other parties into consideration.

firlandsfarm will be back soon claiming that he wasn't lying.

[Derek27]

Why do the Tories take photos of themselves breaking the law? Bank robbers don't do it.

[greenmark]

Why do the Tories take photos of themselves breaking the law? Bank robbers don't do it.

Blinding arrogance or rank stupidity or duplicitous disloyalty?

[Archery1969]

Why do the Tories take photos of themselves breaking the law? Bank robbers don't do it.

I believe a Journalist took the photos.

[Derek27]

Why do the Tories take photos of themselves breaking the law? Bank robbers don't do it.

I believe a Journalist took the photos.

Bank robbers don't invite journalists with a film crew to their hoists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hrwut2dV0k

[firlandsfarm]

BJ said that no rules were broken. He didn't say "I don't think", "I was advised", "as far as I'm aware" or "to the best of my knowledge", he stated categorically that no rules were broken.

I suggest you check Hansard where you will find he told the House that he had "repeatedly" been advised no rules were broken. When are you going to realise that on that basis and in accordance with the English language he did not lie.

[firlandsfarm]

The police, following a lengthy investigation costing £460,000 (money well spent in my opinion), concluded that the rules were broken on no less than 126 occasions.

Well we are all entitled to our opinions and in mine that was a complete waste of police time and public money.

If somebody claiming means-tested benefits receives a substantial sum of money in a will and fails to inform the DWP, continues to claim benefit for several years and subsequentially faces criminal charges of fraud, the court will apply the law. The law doesn't simply care about whether he lied (he will have signed a declaration to inform about a change in circumstances) or knowingly mislead. The legal test is whether he can be reasonably expected to know that he was obliged to inform the DWP of his windfall. I'm sure you'll agree that that's a much fairer test than trying to prove what somebody did or didn't know, as mind-reading is still to this day science fiction.

Well you seem to be confusing breaking the law with telling a lie. I'm sure you will agree that if the law is broken then it is broken but that you broke the law does not mean you lied. I have never said he didn't break the law but you have always said he lied which according to authorities of the English language he clearly did not. Maybe you been on a crash course for mind-reading? I thought it was still science fiction!

No. 10, the place that houses the idiot who's actually running this country and set covid laws has accumulated more covid fines than any other organisation in the country. You're the one that doesn't get it!

As someone who I would expect to have a reasonable understanding of statistics I'm surprised that you should make such a claim. Yes it is factually correct but if only one group has been investigated in such depth it is hardly surprising that they have more than any other organisation (that hasn't been investigated)!