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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:23 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:17 pm
It's brave of Johnson to watch soldiers on the training field. One of them might accidentally shoot him. :D
It was rather worrying someone let him chuck a live hand grenade. I hope Gove wasn't there. :lol:
Was it a real grenade? I didn't see an explosion. The army would have to be completely bonkers to trust him with a real grenade!
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:23 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:17 pm
It's brave of Johnson to watch soldiers on the training field. One of them might accidentally shoot him. :D
It was rather worrying someone let him chuck a live hand grenade. I hope Gove wasn't there. :lol:
Was it a real grenade? I didn't see an explosion. The army would have to be completely bonkers to trust him with a real grenade!
Think your right. It was an airsoft grenade which does go bang but does not actually explode. All I saw was a clip of him on SKY news chucking something which did go bang. :D
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:51 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:23 pm


It was rather worrying someone let him chuck a live hand grenade. I hope Gove wasn't there. :lol:
Was it a real grenade? I didn't see an explosion. The army would have to be completely bonkers to trust him with a real grenade!
Think your right. It was an airsoft grenade which does go bang but does not actually explode. All I saw was a clip of him on SKY news chucking something which did go bang. :D
I've just heard it again. I've heard louder Christmas crackers. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:15 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:51 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:37 pm


Was it a real grenade? I didn't see an explosion. The army would have to be completely bonkers to trust him with a real grenade!
Think your right. It was an airsoft grenade which does go bang but does not actually explode. All I saw was a clip of him on SKY news chucking something which did go bang. :D
I've just heard it again. I've heard louder Christmas crackers. :lol:
Derek, your worst nightmare.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... ion-latest

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Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:51 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:15 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:51 pm


Think your right. It was an airsoft grenade which does go bang but does not actually explode. All I saw was a clip of him on SKY news chucking something which did go bang. :D
I've just heard it again. I've heard louder Christmas crackers. :lol:
Derek, your worst nightmare.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... ion-latest

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I think the "life can't be fair if I don't get my way" attitude is spreading from the US. :roll:
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:11 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jul 24, 2022 12:51 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:15 pm

I've just heard it again. I've heard louder Christmas crackers. :lol:
Derek, your worst nightmare.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... ion-latest

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I think the "life can't be fair if I don't get my way" attitude is spreading from the US. :roll:
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I can't stand people who can't shut up and talk over your voice - I once had a girlfriend like that. I wouldn't vote for Liz but at least I could date her. :D

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greenmark
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Truss still hasn't explained where the money from tax cuts will come from.
Cuts - as poplular as a fart in a spacesuit, right now.
Borrow. Really? Again? After the backdrop of austerity when "there was no fiscal headroom" to covid when suddenly "we have plenty of fiscal headroom".
Plus my impression is that govt's around the world are returning to monetary policy. Using interest rates to cool the money supply. Truss is proposing the opposite preusumably. Borrow more to cut taxes. Whereupon the BOE will whack up interest rates to bring the ensuing inflation down.
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Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:00 pm
Truss still hasn't explained where the money from tax cuts will come from.
Cuts - as poplular as a fart in a spacesuit, right now.
Borrow. Really? Again? After the backdrop of austerity when "there was no fiscal headroom" to covid when suddenly "we have plenty of fiscal headroom".
Plus my impression is that govt's around the world are returning to monetary policy. Using interest rates to cool the money supply. Truss is proposing the opposite preusumably. Borrow more to cut taxes. Whereupon the BOE will whack up interest rates to bring the ensuing inflation down.
Given what I put on another thread about UK income and expenditure then there are only 2 options:

- Borrow more.
- Cut public services.

I am trying to work out where all the tax receipts and income is going. France, same population but income was £300 billion less than the UK’s.

Something is swallowing allot of money!
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Something is swallowing allot of money!
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I think haemorrhaging more appropriate darling ;)
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The Silk Run wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:52 pm
Something is swallowing allot of money!
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I think haemorrhaging more appropriate darling ;)
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Agreed. But what is it ? :o
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:13 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:00 pm
Truss still hasn't explained where the money from tax cuts will come from.
Cuts - as poplular as a fart in a spacesuit, right now.
Borrow. Really? Again? After the backdrop of austerity when "there was no fiscal headroom" to covid when suddenly "we have plenty of fiscal headroom".
Plus my impression is that govt's around the world are returning to monetary policy. Using interest rates to cool the money supply. Truss is proposing the opposite preusumably. Borrow more to cut taxes. Whereupon the BOE will whack up interest rates to bring the ensuing inflation down.
Given what I put on another thread about UK income and expenditure then there are only 2 options:

- Borrow more.
- Cut public services.

I am trying to work out where all the tax receipts and income is going. France, same population but income was £300 billion less than the UK’s.

Something is swallowing allot of money!
Tax reciepts I understand (I think) but income in a governmental context I don't understand. I thought govt income was predominantly tax.
What is the income differential between UK and France of £300 billion?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just asking for clarification and ideally some references.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:24 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:13 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:00 pm
Truss still hasn't explained where the money from tax cuts will come from.
Cuts - as poplular as a fart in a spacesuit, right now.
Borrow. Really? Again? After the backdrop of austerity when "there was no fiscal headroom" to covid when suddenly "we have plenty of fiscal headroom".
Plus my impression is that govt's around the world are returning to monetary policy. Using interest rates to cool the money supply. Truss is proposing the opposite preusumably. Borrow more to cut taxes. Whereupon the BOE will whack up interest rates to bring the ensuing inflation down.
Given what I put on another thread about UK income and expenditure then there are only 2 options:

- Borrow more.
- Cut public services.

I am trying to work out where all the tax receipts and income is going. France, same population but income was £300 billion less than the UK’s.

Something is swallowing allot of money!
Tax reciepts I understand (I think) but income in a governmental context I don't understand. I thought govt income was predominantly tax.
What is the income differential between UK and France of £300 billion?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just asking for clarification and ideally some references.
In 2021/22, UK government raised over £915 billion a year in receipts – income from taxes and other sources.

Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... /cbp-8513/
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:07 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:24 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:13 pm


Given what I put on another thread about UK income and expenditure then there are only 2 options:

- Borrow more.
- Cut public services.

I am trying to work out where all the tax receipts and income is going. France, same population but income was £300 billion less than the UK’s.

Something is swallowing allot of money!
Tax reciepts I understand (I think) but income in a governmental context I don't understand. I thought govt income was predominantly tax.
What is the income differential between UK and France of £300 billion?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just asking for clarification and ideally some references.
In 2021/22, UK government raised over £915 billion a year in receipts – income from taxes and other sources.

Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... /cbp-8513/
And France's equivalent was?
You did draw a comparison between the UK and France.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:31 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:07 pm
greenmark wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:24 pm

Tax reciepts I understand (I think) but income in a governmental context I don't understand. I thought govt income was predominantly tax.
What is the income differential between UK and France of £300 billion?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just asking for clarification and ideally some references.
In 2021/22, UK government raised over £915 billion a year in receipts – income from taxes and other sources.

Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... /cbp-8513/
And France's equivalent was?
You did draw a comparison between the UK and France.
Sorry, I got it wrong, France revenues are way higher than the UK's as seen below:
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