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In respect to people who might 'dare' to criticise the monarchy

People have the right to free speech

This isnt North Korea

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Emmson wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:30 am
I'm with Derek, it's too much - time to move on.

And someone arrested for holding an Abolish the Monarchy placard in Scotland is also a disgrace. :twisted:
It is too much for me too. But there are lot of people that had an actual emotional attachment to Lizzy, so for them, let the media continue to bombard us until they keel over. It is after all a once in 70 year event.

Was the arrest down behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. Like a monarchist mob decide to tear the guy to pieces?
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A TV advert for WaterAid followed by one for hotels with great pools and then one for a waterpark. :roll: and some people call this an advanced society.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:10 pm
A TV advert for WaterAid followed by one for hotels with great pools and then one for a waterpark. :roll: and some people call this an advanced society.
Isn't Wateraid about infrastructure (wells, pipes, taps etc).
But I agree it's another example of how skewed capitalism is. Problem is these countries are sovereign states that we can't interfere with unless they present an existential threat to us. So the best we can do is this kind of aid and watch dismayed as their leaders line their pockets while their people rely on handouts from the developed world.
It would seem a problem with human nature rather than politics. Back when I was a callow youth I assumed that by now we'd have sorted all this stuff.
Such is life!
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RoyJay wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:54 am
Anybody making disrespectful comments towards The Queen should be banned from trading next years Royal Ascot.
My issue isn't with the former queen, I've made it clear it's with Sky News and all the other channels.
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Well, at least it's good news for Star Wars fans. The Post Office will have to go from "E2PO" to "C3PO" ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 3:39 pm
RoyJay wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:54 am
Anybody making disrespectful comments towards The Queen should be banned from trading next years Royal Ascot.
My issue isn't with the former queen, I've made it clear it's with Sky News and all the other channels.

Too late for that now, derek27. You’re banned from trading any race at Ascot, including the one in Australia.
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:45 pm
I assumed that by now we'd have sorted all this stuff.
You're right it's a product of the geopolitics but sad that humanity is still just various troops of chimps.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 4:29 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 2:45 pm
I assumed that by now we'd have sorted all this stuff.
You're right it's a product of the geopolitics but sad that humanity is still just various troops of chimps.
My sister came up with a phrase for dodgy leaders. Toxic clots!
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:52 pm
Was the arrest down behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. Like a monarchist mob decide to tear the guy to pieces?
Symon Hill claims he shouted out "who elected him" and he got arrested.

The Police Crime & Sentencing Courts Act, apparently, gives police powers to disrupt protests if they're deemed to be causing "significant harm" to others. Fuck, I've more than upset RoyJay. The police will be knocking on my door! :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:48 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:52 pm
Was the arrest down behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. Like a monarchist mob decide to tear the guy to pieces?
Symon Hill claims he shouted out "who elected him" and he got arrested.

The Police Crime & Sentencing Courts Act, apparently, gives police powers to disrupt protests if they're deemed to be causing "significant harm" to others. Fuck, I've more than upset RoyJay. The police will be knocking on my door! :lol:
In the context of the moment that was probably ill-advised. And that is just his representation of events.
I would suggest in any case that being arrested was the least worst outcome.
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:58 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:48 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:52 pm
Was the arrest down behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace. Like a monarchist mob decide to tear the guy to pieces?
Symon Hill claims he shouted out "who elected him" and he got arrested.

The Police Crime & Sentencing Courts Act, apparently, gives police powers to disrupt protests if they're deemed to be causing "significant harm" to others. Fuck, I've more than upset RoyJay. The police will be knocking on my door! :lol:
In the context of the moment that was probably ill-advised. And that is just his representation of events.
I would suggest in any case that being arrested was the least worst outcome.
It's the monarchy's rule that Charles becomes king the moment the queen's heart stops beating, the protests were about Charles becoming king, no grievance with the former queen, so they've only got themselves to blame for it. If Charles becomes king immediately then protests have to start immediately.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:36 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:58 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:48 pm


Symon Hill claims he shouted out "who elected him" and he got arrested.

The Police Crime & Sentencing Courts Act, apparently, gives police powers to disrupt protests if they're deemed to be causing "significant harm" to others. Fuck, I've more than upset RoyJay. The police will be knocking on my door! :lol:
In the context of the moment that was probably ill-advised. And that is just his representation of events.
I would suggest in any case that being arrested was the least worst outcome.
It's the monarchy's rule that Charles becomes king the moment the queen's heart stops beating, the protests were about Charles becoming king, no grievance with the former queen, so they've only got themselves to blame for it. If Charles becomes king immediately then protests have to start immediately.
I doubt the protest was formed in that way. "Abolish the Monarchy" is pretty unequivocal. And not sensible in the current context. It was provocative and likely to lead to a breach of the peace. So fair enough to remove him from the streets. But I guess he''ll be out again for the funeral. Problem for him is it will be in Londion and your average Edinburgh citizen will just view any subsequent protests with contempt.
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:46 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:36 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:58 pm

In the context of the moment that was probably ill-advised. And that is just his representation of events.
I would suggest in any case that being arrested was the least worst outcome.
It's the monarchy's rule that Charles becomes king the moment the queen's heart stops beating, the protests were about Charles becoming king, no grievance with the former queen, so they've only got themselves to blame for it. If Charles becomes king immediately then protests have to start immediately.
I doubt the protest was formed in that way. "Abolish the Monarchy" is pretty unequivocal. And not sensible in the current context. It was provocative and likely to lead to a breach of the peace. So fair enough to remove him from the streets. But I guess he''ll be out again for the funeral. Problem for him is it will be in Londion and your average Edinburgh citizen will just view any subsequent protests with contempt.
Many republicans were happy for the queen to see out her reign, I would even be happy for King Charles to see out his reign. I don't think it would be fair to literally kick somebody off their thrown. It's not their fault they're in this position and the two princes don't look as if they want to be king, I think William has even acknowledged that.

There would be no excuse for disrupting the queen's or anyone's funeral, but if protocol dictates that coronation events take place before the funeral then protests will follow. As they say, it's part of the job that a monarch doesn't get the same time to grieve as the rest of us do.
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Not sure why the guy who shouted to Andrew that he was a sick old man was arrested?

Obviously this clown just wanted his fifteen minutes and to be admired by the Twitter mob but to be arrested for that sets a very low bar
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