Mike Cruickshank's "Momentum system"

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Kai
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TJSN1 wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:31 pm
It's helped build a trading bank though.
Sure, but the concept of needing to build a trading bank first is questionable to say the least, a very common misconception.

What use is a trading bank without a trading edge, if it was not built organically? You can only lose it. Better to put it aside and start anew.
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TJSN1 wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:31 pm
I'm in the process of getting all my bookie accounts gubbed with the eachway sniper bot. It's made good profits that have far outweighed the Momentum losses but it obviously won't last long.

It's helped build a trading bank though.
stigblomquist wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.
How are you sniping at the bookies, and doing it with automation? Those are terms I associate with in-running and betting through an api. Which bookies facilitate that?
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Is anyone running a similar strategy still

I've looked at the CS market and it seems quite illiquid with huge gaps in odd prices etc....does any kind of hedging system work with it due to the huge gaps ?
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:04 pm

How are you sniping at the bookies, and doing it with automation? Those are terms I associate with in-running and betting through an api. Which bookies facilitate that?

No bookmakers facilitate it. Though lots of people run arbing robots etc. it’s a massive part of the problem of why we get the endless discussions about bookmaker account restrictions.

Most of the people who squeal about bookmakers restricting only do so because they can’t win on the exchanges. They need the exchanges to tell them which prices are wrong, then expect the bookmakers to facilitate them for as much as they want, with all the concessions, price boosts and extra places etc on top,

All the people who claim to be caught in the crossfire of this, and claim that they “just want a fair bet at a fair price” should just use the exchange. That’s where you get a FAIR BET.
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The bookies don't facilitate it - there's no API involved. The bot supports about a dozen bookies and signs into each account using stored credentials. It then places each way value bets, using user defined criteria (stake and odds) based on comparison with exchange place odds.
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 8:04 pm
TJSN1 wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:31 pm
I'm in the process of getting all my bookie accounts gubbed with the eachway sniper bot. It's made good profits that have far outweighed the Momentum losses but it obviously won't last long.

It's helped build a trading bank though.
stigblomquist wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.
How are you sniping at the bookies, and doing it with automation? Those are terms I associate with in-running and betting through an api. Which bookies facilitate that?
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stigblomquist wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.
Hello stigblomquist,

Aside from the obvious profit from matched betting and +EV casino strategies from Mike, did you ever have any luck with the Betfair 1% Club football trading strategy he included in the package?

I rarely found it profitable and just kept getting break even trades when trying to scalp many big matches. Maybe too many other subscribers still use it, and everyone is left scalping using big banks for very small profit margins these days!?

Cheers
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I've been a dedicated user of Mike Cruickshank's products for over a decade. However, I must now advise caution when considering the purchase of any of Mike's offerings. Regrettably, the quality has declined, and I've encountered losses due to the products not functioning as promised. Despite reaching out with 15 emails and 9 direct messages, Mike has not responded. I possess documented evidence of these interactions and am willing to share it. Ultimately, I was compelled to request refunds through Clickbank and publish this review to inform potential buyers of the risks associated with Mike's products.
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chinnyrekon wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:18 pm
I've been a dedicated user of Mike Cruickshank's products for over a decade. However, I must now advise caution when considering the purchase of any of Mike's offerings. Regrettably, the quality has declined, and I've encountered losses due to the products not functioning as promised. Despite reaching out with 15 emails and 9 direct messages, Mike has not responded. I possess documented evidence of these interactions and am willing to share it. Ultimately, I was compelled to request refunds through Clickbank and publish this review to inform potential buyers of the risks associated with Mike's products.
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Haven't read the full thread.

But using bookies to be profitable is a waste of time... mostly.

No matter what strategy you use, if its long term profitable you WILL get gubbed eventually. Bet365 is perhaps the softest on avoiding a gubbing if you are as careful as possible. I'm at 8k profit with them and not gubbed yet.

However using less subtle tactics I was gubbed at a number of other bookies within days and made probably 20 quid off each of them

It depends what you want. If like me you wanted some short term cash and moderate hassle, go for it. If you want something long term to quit your job, don't bother.
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chinnyrekon wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:21 pm
Despite reaching out with 15 emails and 9 direct messages, Mike has not responded.
That's a lot of emails and DMs though!

I assume the neat thing about publishing "systems" is they will keep turning a profit long after they stop being profitable :D

Assuming they ever were. There's no profit police knocking on your door asking you to take the website down :)
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Spurs1977 wrote:
Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:27 pm
stigblomquist wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:01 pm
Re: Mike Cruickshank - I am a Betting Mastermind lifetime member and to be fair it has been well worth it, I have made a lot of money from the bonus bagging and casino strategies. However some of his strategies just haven't worked for me. Momentum is one of them, tried it out over 20 or 30 matches, never made a penny. The Eachway Sniper automated worked and I made a few hundred quid until I got gubbed by all the bookies it includes.
Hello stigblomquist,

Aside from the obvious profit from matched betting and +EV casino strategies from Mike, did you ever have any luck with the Betfair 1% Club football trading strategy he included in the package?

I rarely found it profitable and just kept getting break even trades when trying to scalp many big matches. Maybe too many other subscribers still use it, and everyone is left scalping using big banks for very small profit margins these days!?

Cheers
Heh, this post just popped up in the thread, this poor first poster had to wait 9 months to get approved by the mods :)
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First posts are always moderated and sometimes the odd one is missed.
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Kai
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They sounded a bit promotional so it's understandable, it probably saved people a few quid
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Kai wrote:
Tue Jul 02, 2024 12:05 pm
They sounded a bit promotional so it's understandable, it probably saved people a few quid
No, the people it saved will have lost their money in the last nine months.
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Talking of first posts, couldn't help noticing due to the close proximity that Derek is only 868 posts behind PW :lol:
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