Ukraine Crisis

[napshnap]

The UN, in March, condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine by 141 votes out of 193, with five against and 38 abstentions.
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The trend was also on show at the United Nations General Assembly in September, when 92 leaders either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys.
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[Derek27]

The UN, in March, condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine by 141 votes out of 193, with five against and 38 abstentions.
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The trend was also on show at the United Nations General Assembly in September, when 92 leaders either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys of your napoleon bonafarts.
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Can you give a link/reference to that source?

[napshnap]

https://euobserver.com/world/156249 here you go.

[Derek27]

The UN, in March, condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine by 141 votes out of 193, with five against and 38 abstentions.
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The trend was also on show at the United Nations General Assembly in September, when 92 leaders either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys of your napoleon bonafarts.
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Can you give a link/reference to that source?

The article says that first there were 38 abstentions. Then 92 leaders "either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party", so clearly it's not the same test.

It doesn't matter how many UN reps abstain, innocent Ukrainian men, women and children are being killed. Nobody in Russia is getting killed in the conflict. It's just the people Putin sends into Ukraine.

[napshnap]

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys of your napoleon bonafarts.
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Can you give a link/reference to that source?

The article says that first there were 38 abstentions. Then 92 leaders "either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party", so clearly it's not the same test.

It doesn't matter how many UN reps abstain, innocent Ukrainian men, women and children are being killed. Nobody in Russia is getting killed in the conflict. It's just the people Putin sends into Ukraine.

It voted by 93 against 24, with 58 abstentions, in April to suspend Russia from the UN's Human Rights Council.

But as you say - it doesn't matter.

Can you certainly say that no civ person on the conflict territory were accidentally or intentionally hurt by tons of weapons the west supplies?

ps I’m definitely not happy about everything that happened these days. I don't understand the military necessarity of attacks on civ energy and communication infrastructure. To me, this looks like another unnecessary round of escalation.

[Derek27]

Can you give a link/reference to that source?

The article says that first there were 38 abstentions. Then 92 leaders "either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party", so clearly it's not the same test.

It doesn't matter how many UN reps abstain, innocent Ukrainian men, women and children are being killed. Nobody in Russia is getting killed in the conflict. It's just the people Putin sends into Ukraine.

It voted by 93 against 24, with 58 abstentions, in April to suspend Russia from the UN's Human Rights Council.

But as you say - it doesn't matter.

Can you certainly say that no civ person on the conflict territory were accidentally or intentionally hurt by tons of weapons the west supplies?

ps I’m definitely not happy about everything that happened these days. I don't understand the military necessarity of attacks on civ energy and communication infrastructure. To me, this looks like another unnecessary round of escalation.

I can't say for certain that civilians haven't been accidentally killed by western supplied weapons. Can you think of a reason why Ukrainians would deliberately kill civilians?

I know Putin puts out a lot of propaganda on the news everytime he drops a bomb in residential areas that Ukrainians are killing their own people but you don't really believe that do you?

[napshnap]

The article says that first there were 38 abstentions. Then 92 leaders "either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party", so clearly it's not the same test.

It doesn't matter how many UN reps abstain, innocent Ukrainian men, women and children are being killed. Nobody in Russia is getting killed in the conflict. It's just the people Putin sends into Ukraine.

It voted by 93 against 24, with 58 abstentions, in April to suspend Russia from the UN's Human Rights Council.

But as you say - it doesn't matter.

Can you certainly say that no civ person on the conflict territory were accidentally or intentionally hurt by tons of weapons the west supplies?

ps I’m definitely not happy about everything that happened these days. I don't understand the military necessarity of attacks on civ energy and communication infrastructure. To me, this looks like another unnecessary round of escalation.

I can't say for certain that civilians haven't been accidentally killed by western supplied weapons. Can you think of a reason why Ukrainians would deliberately kill civilians?

I know Putin puts out a lot of propaganda on the news everytime he drops a bomb in residential areas that Ukrainians are killing their own people but you don't really believe that do you?

I'm sorry, I don't want to discuss this deep. I can only say that this conflict showed that every unthinkable insane sh*t is probably possible and sometimes it's hard to find a rational explanation without being called a conspiracist.

[Kai]

The UN, in March, condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine by 141 votes out of 193, with five against and 38 abstentions.
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The trend was also on show at the United Nations General Assembly in September, when 92 leaders either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys.
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Don't mean to be provocative, but would you be okay with Russia pulling out of Ukraine and Crimea if it meant the end of this conflict?

[Archery1969]

General Sir Richard Shirreff, former deputy supreme allied commander in Europe says “We must face fact that NATO may go to war with Russia.

[napshnap]

The UN, in March, condemned Russia's invasion of Ukraine by 141 votes out of 193, with five against and 38 abstentions.
...
The trend was also on show at the United Nations General Assembly in September, when 92 leaders either didn't mention the conflict at all or didn't name Russia as a party

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys.
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Don't mean to be provocative, but would you be okay with Russia pulling out of Ukraine and Crimea if it meant the end of this conflict?

I hate the "Trolley Dilemma', so if I would be Rorschach from Watchmen I'll say: "I don't believe that civs will be ok, that coming purges won't hurt them. So, the answer is no, this is unacceptable for me."

[greenmark]

From 38 to 92 in a six months, my dear d1k waving gentlemen. Fewer and fewer people of our planet Earth believe nato''s narrative and they just want this theater of the absurd to stop. They want de-escalation and not a war crys.
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Don't mean to be provocative, but would you be okay with Russia pulling out of Ukraine and Crimea if it meant the end of this conflict?

I hate the "Trolley Dilemma', so if I would be Rorschach from Watchmen I'll say: "I don't believe that civs will be ok, that coming purges won't hurt them. So, the answer is no, this is unacceptable for me."

Sweden, Finland and Ukraine could have/could align with Russia rather than NATO. Why do you think they didn't/would rather die than align with Russia?
Because the Russian elite have turned away from democracy in favour of autocracy and oligarchy. And some would say kleptocracy, but I don't know about that as until Russian started being sanctioned GDP per capita was fair. Not at US standards but not at Ukraine standards either.

[Kai]

Good summary by General Ben Hodges : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5WztvkeMLc

[Archery1969]

That Saudi Arabia a right dodgy lot. Been doing behind the scenes deals with Russia all along to help inflate oil prices.

The USA and other western leaders to review their relationship with them and rightly so.

Need to add them to my Nuke list.

[greenmark]

That Saudi Arabia a right dodgy lot. Been doing behind the scenes deals with Russia all along to help inflate oil prices.

The USA and other western leaders to review their relationship with them and rightly so.

Need to add them to my Nuke list.

Why would you strike up a relationship with Putin when you already have links to the West?
The Saudi's need to pay attention to the receding power of oil over the next few decades.
They could find they have no friends and no markets to manipulate.

[Trap1]

Without any viable alternatives to oil the emerging economies will happily take all the oil going. Guyana has a population of about 3/4 million and have around 11 billion proven barrels in reserve. So many of the 'third world' countries are discovering reserves of precious metals, lithium etc and they've little option other than to use oil to extract them. The West may slow reliance on oil but I doubt the world will.