greenmark wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:49 am
Archery1969 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 9:16 am
At least Mr Hunt has been clear this morning on the radio.
“There is a black hole funding gap of £70 billion caused by Covid, War in Ukraine, Energy subsidies”
So, to the public, where do you want savings made ?
Personally I would start talking about the elephant in the room which everyone ignores. NHS is unworkable long term, designed in the 1940s based on population at the time. Nobody paid in enough money over consecutive governments.
Therefore, NHS should be means tested. Free for children, those on benefits, those of any age with household income less than £50,000.
Everyone else, by law must have private healthcare. Similar systems work in Canada, Australia, New Zealand and some European countries etc.
Yesterday, several Labour MPs said, given the funding gap, which will get worse, they won’t be able to do 1/3 of what they wanted to do discussed at their party conference and most people wouldn’t see the benefit of a Labour government for the next 6 years assuming they win the next 2 general elections.
Basically, people need to wake up and get real. The next multiple years are going to be bad whoever is in government, short, medium or long term.
Over to the keyboard economists who know better.
OK I'll bite
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The NHS is fine as a concept, it's the political will to fund and staff it correctly thats missing.
If you doubt me look at the decade or so of austerity when we apparently needed to cut spending to balance the books. Then mysteriouslywe found bilions to fund the covid response.
Poiliticians are liars. The money was there all along. Covid, Ukraine are exceptional events.
But we've coped with and since prospered after worse events ie WW2.
As I say it all comes down to political will. But I guess that means it's all down me and thee to ensure the politicians do the right thing.
We found billions to fund Covid by borrowing £470 billion @ 1.4% interest. That borrowing rate has now climbed to 4.9%. Which means nothing if your borrowing pennies but is crippling if you start borrowing £millions or £billions.
Now we borrowing more £billions to cap everyone and their dogs energy prices.
Mr Blair &Co created a UK full of fcuking snowflakes who expert the government to coming running to help if they fall over and scrape their knee.
God forbid we ever find ourselves in the situation Ukraine is in as half the country would run away crying for help.
This country needs to start growing a backbone. Life was very tough when I grew up in the 70s, 80s but we got on with it and got fcuk all help from those in power.
If you can’t make ends meet, get a job or better one like millions of others do. Listening to a program recently whereby a single mother is struggling with 5 children makes my blood boil and I for one refuse to fund her or her kids.
As my Nan once said, if you can’t afford one then keep your legs closed.
And as for those 2 yesterday throwing paint over an historic painting, then they lucky they didn’t do that kind of stuff when I was growing up as the courts would have sent them to a very unhappy place for re-education. Personally I would give them 20 strokes each of the birch and then throw them in a sea salt bath for fun.
Times are going to get very tough, wonder how many fcuking snowflakes will survive, probably best they just kill themselves but they won’t cause it will hurt no doubt.
We need a good war, send them all of, weak perish and die, strong come back and are welcome.
Might start my campaign going soon….
