UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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A relative of mine has begun trying to save on energy, but still buys wine between £8 and £22 a bottle.

It's pointless buying a case of beer or bottles of wine if you don't use it to wash down food you've cooked in your oven for two hours. I even splash out on the cat when I'm having a drink.

I take no culinary advice from you since trying to get the ingredients for the sorpotel recipe you posted. Offal seems to be a thing of the past. We are a weird species. Happy to slaughter each other, but squeamish about perfectly good by-products of the meat we eat every week.
Oops. Nothing to do with UK elections. Ah what the hell. Truss is toast. It's now about who's the next PM. I reckon Sunak and I'd be grumpy but content with that.

[Derek27]

Cutting taxes isn't working, let's try raising them instead.

How's Truss gonna justify doing the exact opposite of what she said she'd do in the leadership contest, and indeed, now following Sunak's policies? And what are the members thinking now?

[Archangel]

Cutting taxes isn't working, let's try raising them instead.

How's Truss gonna justify doing the exact opposite of what she said she'd do in the leadership contest, and indeed, now following Sunak's policies? And what are the members thinking now?

These are the same people who believed Brexit was a going to be good for the economy, and that Boris just has some cake and it was no big deal.
They will believe what they are told to believe.

[sionascaig]

Cutting taxes isn't working, let's try raising them instead.

How's Truss gonna justify doing the exact opposite of what she said she'd do in the leadership contest, and indeed, now following Sunak's policies? And what are the members thinking now?

Its even worse now, with Hunt saying they will also have to reduce spending in the "protected" areas under Sunik (NHS, defence, & benefits - due to "mistakes the administration has already made"..

The cons are too fractured atm to make much headway - general election needed to reboot them.

Looks like quite a few are already in discussions with labour to switch - obviously keeping their seat is far more important than anything else. What a shower..

[Derek27]

Cutting taxes isn't working, let's try raising them instead.

How's Truss gonna justify doing the exact opposite of what she said she'd do in the leadership contest, and indeed, now following Sunak's policies? And what are the members thinking now?

Its even worse now, with Hunt saying they will also have to reduce spending in the "protected" areas under Sunik (NHS, defence, & benefits - due to "mistakes the administration has already made"..

The cons are too fractured atm to make much headway - general election needed to reboot them.

Looks like quite a few are already in discussions with labour to switch - obviously keeping their seat is far more important than anything else. What a shower..

We're all used to a new government coming in and blaming the previous government for all their problems, that's only to be expected. You can't do it when you've been in office for 12 years, but the Conservatives have the advantage of changing their chancellor every month so they can blame the old chancellor.

[Derek27]

I think it's high time the 5-year parliamentary term is reduced to 3 years, and a PM stepping down should result in a general election, not a party leadership contest. We can't allow a bunch of lunatics carry on for 5 years choosing their own leader.

And we can drop the term loony-left, we've now got a loony-right.

[Archery1969]

I think it's high time the 5-year parliamentary term is reduced to 3 years, and a PM stepping down should result in a general election, not a party leadership contest. We can't allow a bunch of lunatics carry on for 5 years choosing their own leader.

And we can drop the term loony-left, we've now got a loony-right.

We need PR or better still the Swiss system whereby 100,000 votes on an issue can cause a national vote. This happen recently when someone challenged the very liberal gun laws, second only to the USA. However, they did lose as the Swiss love their guns plus after compulsory national service literally every dwelling has a semi-automatic 5.56mm assault rifle. Probably why home invasions and burglary are very low on the crime scale.

[Archery1969]

BOE chief warns of substantial interest rate hike but says conversation with Jeremy Hunt was a meeting of minds. Is JH now effectively the chancellor and PM after seriously criticising the PM and former chancellor ?

Jesus, you couldn’t make this stuff up!!!!

Glad I don’t have a mortgage anymore, although I might buy another repossession when the housing market tanks.

[Derek27]

I think it's high time the 5-year parliamentary term is reduced to 3 years, and a PM stepping down should result in a general election, not a party leadership contest. We can't allow a bunch of lunatics carry on for 5 years choosing their own leader.

And we can drop the term loony-left, we've now got a loony-right.

We need PR or better still the Swiss system whereby 100,000 votes on an issue can cause a national vote. This happen recently when someone challenged the very liberal gun laws, second only to the USA. However, they did lose as the Swiss love their guns plus after compulsory national service literally every dwelling has a semi-automatic 5.56mm assault rifle. Probably why home invasions and burglary are very low on the crime scale.

To my mind, and in the national interest, the best setup would be if I was made king and ruler. My first priority would be a suitable woman to marry, but after that I'd focus on the economy.

It sure beats the current setup. Growth, growth, growth by reducing taxes. If that doesn't work, growth, growth, growth by increasing taxes.

[Archangel]

At some point she will be handed a shot of whiskey and a revolver

[greenmark]

At some point she will be handed a shot of whiskey and a revolver

By jove. There's wishes and then there's delusion. I have a word for Truss, but I can't use it.
Betfair have her out in 2022 at 1.53.
Problem is who replaces her. Rishi is looking more and more a proper politician, but if the Tory membership are involved we'll probably get Nigel Farage.

[Archery1969]

But, how do they get Truss out without her seeking revenge, going to the King, dissolving parliment and calling a general election. Around 60% of Tory MP's would lose their seats given current polling.

[Derek27]

But, how do they get Truss out without her seeking revenge, going to the King, dissolving parliment and calling a general election. Around 60% of Tory MP's would lose their seats given current polling.

Things aren't likely to get any better for them if she stays in position, so they've got nothing to lose. I'm sure a lot of Tory MPs are ashamed and embarrassed and just what to get the sorry saga over with. In fact, they probably want a Labour government so that the focus shifts elsewhere.

[Archery1969]

But, how do they get Truss out without her seeking revenge, going to the King, dissolving parliment and calling a general election. Around 60% of Tory MP's would lose their seats given current polling.

Things aren't likely to get any better for them if she stays in position, so they've got nothing to lose. I'm sure a lot of Tory MPs are ashamed and embarrassed and just what to get the sorry saga over with. In fact, they probably want a Labour government so that the focus shifts elsewhere.

True.

Some believe Austerity will be back for the next 3 to 4 years regardless of who is in power. The finances look very grim. The suns don’t add up, expenditure is way above income. Borrowing is a non starter as the markets, finch and other global reference agencies are downgrading the UK. That causes borrowing at excessive interest rates.

[Derek27]

But, how do they get Truss out without her seeking revenge, going to the King, dissolving parliment and calling a general election. Around 60% of Tory MP's would lose their seats given current polling.

Things aren't likely to get any better for them if she stays in position, so they've got nothing to lose. I'm sure a lot of Tory MPs are ashamed and embarrassed and just what to get the sorry saga over with. In fact, they probably want a Labour government so that the focus shifts elsewhere.

True.

Some believe Austerity will be back for the next 3 to 4 years regardless of who is in power. The finances look very grim. The suns don’t add up, expenditure is way above income. Borrowing is a non starter as the markets, finch and other global reference agencies are downgrading the UK. That causes borrowing at excessive interest rates.

That bodes well for Labour. They can blame the Tories for the next 10 years.

Giving away money to the richest during a crisis like this has really sealed Truss's fate, and secured her place in history as one of the biggest boneheads to lead Britain. How proud it is to be British.