UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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jimibt
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:14 pm
Archangel wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:10 pm
Be interesting to see does he try to appoint a competant cabinet or will be follow the Boris/Truss approach of appointing sycophants
I'll bite on that. I think he will surround himself with competence.
he's gonna drain all the fun :(

as a (not so) trendy leftie, i'm a lot less worried about the general affairs of the country than i was 96 hours ago
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decomez6
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jimibt wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:55 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:49 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:33 pm


Rishi is Kier's key to No.10 downing street.

for the current tory party to succeed , they will have to adopt labour policies . in essence the only way is labour or economic oblivion .

Rishi worked with kier to lock down the country , give out some handouts inform of farlough
and now he is inhereting a mini chaos caused by a tory oriented mini budget .

so expect more taxation for the rich , higher co-operation tax (windfall tax ) , Euro friendly policies with london as the focal point of growth .. all Labour !

In short , The conservative party is preparing a soft landing into the opposition lead by a Rishi's care taker government .
I disagree. I expect Rishi and Hunt (I assume Hunt will stay) to go for cuts and no tax cuts until we emerge from this mire.
Labour would continue to spend.
Which of those strategies is correct we'll never know. Only one can be tested at any point.
For sure Rishi has a flipping monumental task. Post-covid, Ukraine, Make brexit work, levelling up, eye-watering public deficit and a political party tearing itself apart. But he does at least have the option of buggering off to California if it all goes base over apex.
he (rishi) must have loved and loathed in equal measure the outcome of his *defeat* by the party faithful (old white men) ushering in the truss-i-nator. experiment over; let's see what unfolds now. just a shame that potentially no more daily faux pas' to cringe over!!
same lot that voted for Brexit hoping for less immigration and 'sovereign little' GB .
now facing empty supermarket shelves , no more Tripple lock promises on Pension , higher energy costs , less qualified or non existent care /health workers e.t.c

where is their' HERO' Nigel Farage ? Bojo ? ....they exited with a big pension and left it for Rishi to deal with the mess....very patriotic indeed !
and as Green mark says , Rishi is torn in between california and London (Non Dom , green card etc )
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Derek27
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Talk of a motion of no confidence in the government, supported by Labour, LibDems and SNP.
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Derek27
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If Sunak's car crashes on the way to see the king, those 1000s would look quite generous. :)
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Archangel
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Have any letters of no confidence gone in yet ?
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Derek27
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Sunak: She [Liz] has led with dignity and grace. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Emmson
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Just Settle Please Betfair!!!
Archery1969
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Before people get excited:

“Losing a vote of no confidence would not necessarily trigger a general election: the Government would be expected to resign but given the Tory majority in the Commons the party would have the right to try to form a new administration. Also, there is no mechanism in place to force the government to resign, they could just hold on until January 2025”
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:08 pm
Before people get excited:

“Losing a vote of no confidence would not necessarily trigger a general election: the Government would be expected to resign but given the Tory majority in the Commons the party would have the right to try to form a new administration. Also, there is no mechanism in place to force the government to resign, they could just hold on until January 2025”
Who is suggesting a vote of no confidence?
I like Rishi (as far as I can endorse a Tory).
I'd be stunned if his premiership ends like that.
He's human and may make mistakes and it's unlikely I will ever vote Tory, but after the last few years he looks flipping great to me!!
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Derek27
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Emmson wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:37 pm
Just Settle Please Betfair!!!
They can't settle because he's not PM yet. There's still time for somebody to bump him off. :)
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:08 pm
Before people get excited:

“Losing a vote of no confidence would not necessarily trigger a general election: the Government would be expected to resign but given the Tory majority in the Commons the party would have the right to try to form a new administration. Also, there is no mechanism in place to force the government to resign, they could just hold on until January 2025”
It's not a vote of no confidence but a "motion" of no confidence in the government. I'm not entirely sure what would happen if the motion won, other than it being a statement.
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What the hell is the difference between a vote and motion of no confidence ?
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Archangel
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If I hear any more politicians saying they did something "for the good of the country", I might just puke
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:03 pm
What the hell is the difference between a vote and motion of no confidence ?
A vote, I believe, is part of the Tory party constitution for Tory MPs to vote on and subject to their own rules.

A motion can be put forward by any MP and voted on by the house. However, I'm not entirely sure what weight it has if it suceeds.
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Derek27
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I'm half-minded to start a petition asking whether Johnson should be honoured with the official title, Boris the Buffoon. If it gains 100,000 votes, parliament would have to debate it. :D
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