Place back bet on higher odds than last traded lay price

Advanced automation available in Guardian - Chat with others and share files here.
User avatar
Dallas
Posts: 23597
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm

croat wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:33 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:00 pm
In your first image I can't see any reason why it hasn't placed further bets, now its greened up the 'Store latest P/L' should have triggered and stored a P/L for the next further lay bet rule to trigger

In the second image you'd have a £12.40 greened profit - is that not above the amount you've set so no further bets would be placed?


Regarding the Tennis scores, there's nothing wrong with adding all the rules to your existing file, but if it were me I'd always keep these separate and apply the file to the 'Automation Rules 2' column

I think its neater and easier to manage that way - but its a personal preference
Regarding those amount above - did test on your modified file - changed there on higher P/L. Have max somethimg like 150euros... Everything should be the same.. Can send you those modified file if need to check?
Have a lot of examples where didnt want to place lay bet in same way. Cannot figure out why myself
Check the conditions on the P/L rule, that needs to trigger and set a signal for the lay bet to fire
Maybe even tick the 'write to log' box on the P/L signal tab that way we can see if its that rule is firing or not, if it is then its the lay rule thats the problem
croat
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:28 am

To be sure, just made later tests on your original file. Here is one example where later on didnt want to place lay bet:
nolay3.0version3.JPG
nolay3.0version2.JPG
nolay3.0version1.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
croat
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:28 am

nolay3.0version4.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Dallas
Posts: 23597
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm

So in that first image the 'Store P/L' hasn't triggered so that what to check first - there must be a condition that's not being satisfied

I've shut down for the day so can't see the file but will check tomorrow if you can't locate the cause
croat
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:28 am

Looks like found where problem was using your suggestions to figure it out.
Took me hours to get it but looks like it works ok for now
3to8sec.JPG
At Future Bets modified this Signal Changed condition for 'updated_profit' from 1 to 3 seconds ago to 1 to 8 seconds ago

Will try more tomorrow on more markets and let you know is it ok when see into more details..
Tnx
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
croat
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:28 am

How is exactly 'Close Trade On Selection with Greening' functioning? Is it possible somehow to make it trigger manually so could adapt it little..?
Maybe somehow to put more conditions into those green functioning if possible?
In my case am not satisfied with a way it works sometimes - example in automation process i have condition to green if green is between 10 and 20 euros, so if odds are very good sometimes it will green by backing on odds 1.60 no matter lay bet was placed on odds 1.50 (so losing substantual value off course and dont want that) - because still it's in range10-20 and Close Trade will trigger those bad bets..
User avatar
Dallas
Posts: 23597
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm

croat wrote:
Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:16 am
How is exactly 'Close Trade On Selection with Greening' functioning? Is it possible somehow to make it trigger manually so could adapt it little..?
Maybe somehow to put more conditions into those green functioning if possible?
In my case am not satisfied with a way it works sometimes - example in automation process i have condition to green if green is between 10 and 20 euros, so if odds are very good sometimes it will green by backing on odds 1.60 no matter lay bet was placed on odds 1.50 (so losing substantual value off course and dont want that) - because still it's in range10-20 and Close Trade will trigger those bad bets..
Like any rule it will trigger as soon as all conditions are met

By default it will place the bet at the best price available when it triggers but you can set this on the parameters tab ie, offer the bet at the reverse price or custom ticks outside the reverse price etc

You can also add additional conditions like a relative odds condition to test the spread between the back or lay price isn't to big

Or you can add a delay so that once conditions are met it doesn't trigger until the market settles down a bit, I use this on many tennis rules which enter/exit a trade at the start of a new set or game
There is an example here which uses a delay
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=11962
croat
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:28 am

bad green.JPG
Here is example, not sure how to avoid this situations, look it placed lay bet with 1.63 odds, and back it with 1.62 what basically reduce profit. Sometimes this odds difference are lot higher..
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
croat
Posts: 23
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2022 1:28 am

And have another problem, again cannot figure it out myself :roll:
On screenshot you see -5,05 euros on Over 3.5 Goals Atalanta game. It should be zero. In 99% it is working fine, but sometimes this error occurs. And then could get unexpected loss on those one game.. Can this situations be avoided?
Otherwise, beside those two previous described problems (which cannot figure out why) everything else is working perfect.
shouldbezero.JPG
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Dallas
Posts: 23597
Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:57 pm

croat wrote:
Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:57 pm
And have another problem, again cannot figure it out myself :roll:
On screenshot you see -5,05 euros on Over 3.5 Goals Atalanta game. It should be zero. In 99% it is working fine, but sometimes this error occurs. And then could get unexpected loss on those one game.. Can this situations be avoided?
Otherwise, beside those two previous described problems (which cannot figure out why) everything else is working perfect.

shouldbezero.JPG
Options of ways to delay the green up trigger were in my previous reply above

In your last message both bets were triggered together so the signalled delay from the lay bet to greening bet should resolve this to

Its just a case now of tweaking the rule timings etc so that they take into account the in-play delay time (which differs between tennis and soccer and also between different soccer markets so you might be better using two variations if you can find a set of timings that work optimally on both)

Also just wanted to check you don't have optimized greening enabled on your main green up settings?
as that could throw some false triggers with this type of rules file
Post Reply

Return to “Bet Angel - Automation”