Offset laybet pregame, take these global settings ingame

[Kosi10]

Dear Bet Angel Community,

I'm trying to establish a bot that will take a position, a laybet, offset that laybet by x ticks, and use the 'offset bet with greening and trailing stop' global setting. If I'm correctly the bot will 'ride the wave up' as the game goes on (if the odds drift), but will stop itsself out if a dip occurs.. My problem is, I don't seem to be able to get the pregame laybet (including the global settings) to continue ingame. I'm using a 'keep all unmatched bets'-rule to hover these conditions over, however, it doesn't seem to do what I want.. Could also be that I misunderstand.

After a day looking stuff up on this forum, not being able to find the answer, I'm looking forward to the forums wisdom!

Regards, Kosi

[Dallas]

Dear Bet Angel Community,

I'm trying to establish a bot that will take a position, a laybet, offset that laybet by x ticks, and use the 'offset bet with greening and trailing stop' global setting. If I'm correctly the bot will 'ride the wave up' as the game goes on (if the odds drift), but will stop itsself out if a dip occurs.. My problem is, I don't seem to be able to get the pregame laybet (including the global settings) to continue ingame. I'm using a 'keep all unmatched bets'-rule to hover these conditions over, however, it doesn't seem to do what I want.. Could also be that I misunderstand.

After a day looking stuff up on this forum, not being able to find the answer, I'm looking forward to the forums wisdom!

Regards, Kosi

All stop bets are removed once a market goes in-play so that they don't get accidentally triggered when most of the money disappears briefly

So to use a stop loss bet in-play you'd need to trigger the opening bet once it had gone in-play

However if you a trading football then stops are useless in-play, the odds will as you describe go in one direction as the time decays but as soon as a goal is scored once the market is unsuspended it will often reform a number of ticks aways from where it was trading usually leaving your stop bet unmatched in the middle of nowhere

Its also similar in Tennis markets

If you want to use a stop bet after a goal or point/game/set is won then you'd need to create an automation file with a 'Green up' rule that triggers at the best price once the market has reformed at the new odds

[Kosi10]

Dear Dalles, thank you again for your reply, most appreciated!

I'm not sure what you are saying.. I have a simple lay under 2.5 goals bot that I use. The bot will place a laybet at x (just before the game starts) and will offset that bet with a few ticks, I use the keep all unmatched bets rule and it works.. I don't know what you are referring to.. Does the trailing not work? Or, which bets are automatically cancelled?


Different question, not the right topic probably, what is the maximum amount of games guardian can manage? I'm using the advanced settings (restrict refresh). When I put in all soccer-match odds games it seems to leave some games blank, even if I uncheck the advanced settings.

Thanks again for your time! Kind regards.

[Dallas]

Dear Dalles, thank you again for your reply, most appreciated!

I'm not sure what you are saying.. I have a simple lay under 2.5 goals bot that I use. The bot will place a laybet at x (just before the game starts) and will offset that bet with a few ticks, I use the keep all unmatched bets rule and it works.. I don't know what you are referring to.. Does the trailing not work? Or, which bets are automatically cancelled?


Different question, not the right topic probably, what is the maximum amount of games guardian can manage? I'm using the advanced settings (restrict refresh). When I put in all soccer-match odds games it seems to leave some games blank, even if I uncheck the advanced settings.

Thanks again for your time! Kind regards.

The trailing stop part is removed when the match goes in-play, only the offset bet will be kept

If you are using streaming Betfair have a limit of 1000, so thats the maximum you can add to guardian
If you are using polling then you can add as many markets as you want

[Kosi10]

Dear Dalles, again, many thanks for your insights!

Will the 'with greening' option be kept in play?

[Dallas]

Dear Dalles, again, many thanks for your insights!

Will the 'with greening' option be kept in play?

Yes, providing its been placed in the market before you click the ''keep unmatched bets' button

[Kosi10]

Thank you,

Any idea how a bot can place multiple bets pregame, 20 ticks above the layodds I told the bot to put the bets in? Has it got anything to do with the liquitity? Or...?

[Dallas]

Thank you,

Any idea how a bot can place multiple bets pregame, 20 ticks above the layodds I told the bot to put the bets in? Has it got anything to do with the liquitity? Or...?

I assume you mean the offset bets at different odds?
If so you just add additional rules to place each using a fraction of the original stake and each offsetting at different ticks
Like this example does
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=12284

If you mean can several opening bets be offered at different price then similar to above you just create additional rules (you can use the icon with two green arrows at the top of the rules editor window to duplicate rules), and then just change where the bet is placed at on the parameters tab of each rule

[Kosi10]

Hi Dallas!

That isn't really what I meant... What I mean is:

bot set to laybet at 1.06 of lower.

bot put laybets in at 1.26, offset bets relative to that 1.26 were never triggered because the odds never reaches that high...
Makes me nervous...

Hope you have any idea..
Regards, Kosi

[Dallas]

Hi Dallas!

That isn't really what I meant... What I mean is:

bot set to laybet at 1.06 of lower.

bot put laybets in at 1.26, offset bets relative to that 1.26 were never triggered because the odds never reaches that high...
Makes me nervous...

Hope you have any idea..
Regards, Kosi

I'm not exactly sure what it is you mean but to clarify and cover everything you've mentioned;

When you place a bet you can instruct the offset bet to be placed either at the same time or when the opening bet is matched
That is controlled by using the fill/kill option
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/off ... tages.html

You also get to set them number of ticks/percentage away from the opening bet the offset is placed at

If you want the bet to be triggered only when 'X' odds are reached (ie, place a lay bet at 1.06 when it reaches odds of 1.26) then you'd add a 'Fixed Odds condition'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/fixed_odds.html